Dodgers Keep on Hitting, But Miami Brings the Power in 6-2 Marlin Win

Down 4-2 in the 8th inning, Matt Kemp walked to load the bases. That brought up Adrian Gonzalez, who’d already driven in a run with two hits on the day, against Miami reliever Steve Cishek. This is the kind of situation fairy tales are made of; Gonzalez, having already hit more home runs at Dodger Stadium than James Loney had all year, up with a chance to end the homestand and his first weekend as a Dodger with a go-ahead grand slam.

With two strikes, Gonzalez swung and sent a hard-hit ball to deep right field. For the briefest moment, it seemed like he’d done it, as the crowd swelled to their feet, but “almost” wasn’t quite good enough, as the ball fell into the glove of right fielder Giancarlo Stanton on the lip of the warning track.

Unfortunately, that was as close as the Dodgers got to the big hit today, collecting 11 hits off six Miami pitchers but being unable to have a single one going for extra bases. In theory, that’s depressing, because the Marlins are a bad team, but I have to look at it from the other side, and maybe it’s just the excitement of the weekend’s moves which hasn’t worn off yet: including a hit-by-pitch and six walks – including two apiece from Kemp & Nick Punto – the Dodgers put 18 men on base today. Hell, even Juan Uribe broke an “0 since 2005″ streak to grab a pinch-hit. That’s unfortunate in the moment, but more often than not, if you’re getting that kind of on-base production, the runs will come. They did in the first two games of the series; it just didn’t happen today, and those games happen from time to time.

Over the three games against Miami, this team had 40 hits (just hits alone, not even including walks), and that’s with Gonzalez not even having played on Friday. Yeah, I think that’ll work.

Where the Dodgers had difficulty finding power, the Marlins brought it in spades. Aaron Harang & Shawn Tolleson allowed two longballs apiece, including a mammoth blast to dead center by Stanton and the first MLB dinger from rookie catcher Rob Brantly; Tolleson merely allowed a difficult deficit to get larger by letting Jose Reyes & Carlos Lee go back-to-back in the ninth. That was all the scoring Miami would need, though an error by former Marlin Hanley Ramirez allowed an additional run to score in the eighth. Don Mattingly used six of his seven relievers today, and while Kenley Jansen didn’t enter, he did warm, so we’d better all hope that Josh Beckett has a successful debut in Colorado tomorrow.

With the loss, the Dodgers fall 2.5 back of San Francisco, who send Tim Lincecum against Tim Hudson on Sunday Night Baseball tonight.

184 comments
Mike Petriello
Mike Petriello moderator

1275 words on Josh Beckett coming in... now.

WBBsAs
WBBsAs

I was pleased to see Lincescum add to his league-leading losses, but disappointed that his ERA remains at an undeservedly low 5.3 (like Vin, I eschew the second decimal). I am also disappointed that he probably doesn't have enough starts left to reach 20 losses.

 

It was also a pleasure to note that the irritating Pagan went 0-for-4, presumably the start of many such.

 

DBrim
DBrim moderator

Mike, quick error on your payroll page. On the top table, it says that no players are eligible for arbitration, but below it says that Hawksworth is eligible after this year.

 

Speaking of which, most obvious non-tender ever, right?

Sangro Azul
Sangro Azul

Im good with reinforcing the rotation, but why does Greinki's (sp) name always keep comin up? What about Lohse?

Tangled Up In Blue
Tangled Up In Blue

WAAAAAIIIIIITTTT. Uribe got a hit today??? Uribe got an AT BAT today? Holy fuf.

Tangled Up In Blue
Tangled Up In Blue

Dodgers bought approx. 15% of BOSTON'S payroll.... 2 years ago I would've called MAJOR bullshit. 

Tangled Up In Blue
Tangled Up In Blue

So.... odds for each dodger to be a future HOFer.... given the fact that EVERYONE has protection now. 

JoeyE
JoeyE

nick punto's a mean bunter. i remember him in the playoffs last year lol

JoeyE
JoeyE

funny twitter account about stuff giants fans say on their post game show

 

LOL KNBR Callers ‏@LOLKNBRCallers

"Chipper Jones is a switch hitter who played LF in 2002. What do you think about Chipper Jones being traded to the Giants??"#LOLKNBRCallers

 

Bawfuls
Bawfuls

sooooo, ambitious spitballing ahead:

 

Sign Grienke to a fat deal this winter.  Backload it (just a little) like they did with Kemp's this year to save money in 2013 only because that is the year with too much committed already, and lots comes off the books thereafter.  Then eat some money to flip two of Harang/Capuano/Lilly this winter.  Doesn't much matter who, nor what you get in return.  Maybe some fungible relievers or a glove-first MI.  

 

2013 - Kershaw/Greinke/Bills/Beckett/leftover

2014 - Kershaw/Greinke/Bills/Beckett/Lee

 

I am out of pie-in-the-sky money ideas after this.

Gilbert_Vengeance
Gilbert_Vengeance

Who tells Vin Scully go "get his shit together" ROFL hahahahahahahaha

Mike Petriello
Mike Petriello moderator

 @DBrim Not an error, though may be confusing. I didn't include him on the top simply because I'm 10000% sure he'll be non-tendered rather than going through arb. Perhaps that's not the way it should be though.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

 @Sangro Azul Grienke's an ace, Lohse is a 2 or 3.  Aces on the free agent market are hard to come by, these days.

JoeyE
JoeyE

 @Tangled Up In Blue it's freaking crazy what they did. i know some people think it's a bad move, but these guys really dont care about the money so im ok with it

Tangled Up In Blue
Tangled Up In Blue

Actually, Kemp, Kersh, Gonzo, Jansen.... I can see these guys being great big picture

Tangled Up In Blue
Tangled Up In Blue

 @Bawfuls I definitely think keeping Capuano/Harang and Lilly would be smart because you and I both know that Dodger rotations can't stay healthy. Trade Harang or Cappy, Uribe and medium prospects for position prospects and if need be eat some of the contracts... picking up a problem contract could be the offset, but Cappy may have enough value to make that unnecessary. I love Greinke, but I'm speculative about him thriving long term on a big-market team (See panic attacks in KC, 2010/performance issues with LAA). I think it'd be smart to buy out Guerrier and give AA arms a shot in spring training. Knowing Colletti, he'll resign League and trade him at low market value in July. 'Pen in 2013 probably consists of Jansen, Guerra, Tolleson, League, Beli and variety of "signed out of camp"s and surprise prospects. I think before signing anyone like Greinke, ownership needs to focus on Kersh. That dude needs to be a fixture through 2020 at least. 

DBrim
DBrim moderator

 @Mike Petriello I will say, though, that I really like the way your payroll page is formatted.  Makes it really easy to determine who is getting what.

 

And yeah, these owners. NOT MESSING AROUND. That's A LOT of money for next year.

 

A suggestion would be to do something similar to what Eric Stephan did, maybe have an option to view the payroll against the luxury tax calculation methods, which according to Eric is evaluated against the average annual value of the contract.

mixdr077
mixdr077

@JoeyE @Tangled Up In Blue this is how the team shoulda been ran when Fox owned them, but they were about profits, and we all know the parking lot attendant never had money (SADLY he does now) to do anything this BALLSY....i for one dont give a tinkers dam what anyone else's fan base thinks, and over the last 30 days I have had the biggest Dodger Blue boner!!!! So, VIVA!!!!!

Dave! (but probably Justin Turner, maybe)
Dave! (but probably Justin Turner, maybe)

@Bawfuls @LA Woman I very nearly purchased one of those motorized ride-on coolers a few years ago. I kick myself at least once a week for failing to pull the trigger.

Bawfuls
Bawfuls

 @Tangled Up In Blue I am taking it as a given that Kershaw will sign a long-term extension this winter or next.  Ownership would be smart to do it sooner than later, however.

JoeyE
JoeyE

 @Tangled Up In Blue  @Bawfuls I wouldn't worry about Kershaw. He's signed for next year already and with this new ownership, he'll be here a long time

DBrim
DBrim moderator

 @el serracho  @Mike Petriello My hope is that they see the Hamels contract and match that.

 

Kershaw has a boatload of leverage, though.

Disgruntled Goat
Disgruntled Goat moderator

 @DBrim  @Mike Petriello that's a lot of money off the books in 14, and more after that methinks (beckett and hanley?). 

 

this all makes sense in a certain light. 

KirkDavenport
KirkDavenport

 @Tangled Up In Blue  @Bawfuls I would guess they might use Hamels and Lincecum as comparables. Kershaw will likely get an offer of $8-12 million through his arbitaration years then an $18 million year for the first of his free agent years then 6 years at $22 million. His free agent years come close to when Beckett's salary comes off the books but it is not like the Dodgers are concerned about where the money is coming from. Kershaw's agent might actually hold off a bit to see what the TV deal will end up to boost the asking price

Bawfuls
Bawfuls

 @Tangled Up In Blue probably whatever he wants.  He is young as hell, proven, durable, and a marketing icon.  Who knows, maybe they set a new record for pitcher contract by length and total dollars.

Frank J Lapidus
Frank J Lapidus

@JoeyE @Tangled Up In Blue @Bawfuls In 5 years, Kershaw still wont even be 30 yet! Hah