Ned Colletti Will Outlive Us All

I’d like to say that this comes as any sort of surprise whatsoever, but, nope. Bill Shaikin:

The Dodgers have opened discussions with Ned Colletti on a long-term contract extension, which could put him in position to become the team’s longest-serving general manager since Al Campanis.

Dodgers Chairman Mark Walter said he did not know the details of the discussions but confirmed a new deal is on the table.

“That’s my understanding,” Walter said.

Look, I’ve probably written more words about how infuriating I’ve found most of Colletti’s moves than I have on any other topic in the five-plus years this blog has been around, except perhaps than I did on Juan Pierre, who was himself a Ned Colletti move. Yet considering how this team is still in the hunt despite years of McCourt mismanagement and Stan Kasten’s track record of having kept Jim Bowden after arriving in Washington, I can’t say this comes as any surprise at all. This team, despite years of McCourt mismanagement, has been surprisingly competitive for most of the year. The fans are returning, interest is picking up, Colletti & Kasten seemingly have a solid working relationship… well, why should we have expected a change?

Well, that’s not totally true. I am, I suppose, a little bit surprised that this might happen before the end of the season, because if a team he built and then spent hundreds of millions of Guggenheim money to upgrade nosedives after spending most of the season in first place, it would have been a lot easier for Kasten and company to install their own people.

I never really bought into the “Colletti was handcuffed by McCourt’s budget troubles!” argument, because this is still the guy who blew well over $100m on misguided signings like Jason Schmidt, Andruw Jones, Juan Uribe, Matt Guerrier, Ted Lilly & Pierre. He’s still the guy who traded away James McDonald (for Octavio Dotel!) & Carlos Santana, and has a crazy fetish for horrible “gritty” veterans like Adam Kennedy, Nick Punto, Mark Sweeney, Aaron Miles, & Ryan Theriot. Still, I will begrudgingly admit that most of the moves we hated last winter have generally worked out – so far at least, until those back-loaded two year deals come back to bite next year –  and the recent spate of trades ranged from great to at least defensible – and I honestly can’t imagine the effort that must have gone into the giant Boston deal. Colletti, if still not great, has been at least useful over the last year, and that’s a step up from the days where it was almost certain that the team would be better off if he didn’t even show up for work.

Does that make Ned Colletti the man I want leading this team forward? No, of course not, because I still dream of that forward-thinking Andrew Friedman type, and I’m terrified to see what he does on the open market with this kind of money. But I’ve long been resigned to the fact that he’s not going anywhere, and while that’s disappointing, the lack of surprise makes it less of a downer than you’d think.

Ned Colletti’s going to be here for a long, long time. It’s a fact we’ll need to deal with, sad as that may be. All we can do is hope that the more recent version has learned some lessons from the truly atrocious version we started out with… and that when and if he does make another massive mistake, the Guggenheim pockets are deep enough to buy their way out of it.

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Nobadpizza
Nobadpizza

I wish that I could say I was surprised by this move, but I'm not.  I had a feeling the last few months of trades would save him.  I just really have no faith in him though.  It's not that I thought he should signed the big names, but man the multi year deals to horrible players is just unforgivable.  If it was one or two that would be one thing, but the list is long.  He is not the guy that is looking to get the most bang for the buck.

DBrim
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Given how much Rosenthal is waffling about his story on twitter, I think even he knows that it's terrible.

Guitar
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In Colletti's defense, that picture was taken before Uribe could enter an obesity contest with an elephant.

Colletti didn't shove the burgers down Uribe's throat.

I've stated that Uribe's injury was among the team's worst because his physique went from Kevin Smith to Ralphie May during those weeks.

Catfacts
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 @Guitar To be honest, I'm kind of sick of seeing that picture.  Makes me think about all that wasted money and opportunity. The random shots of him looking sad in the dugout though, that's funny. Be bored and useless, you overpaid dope.

WBBsAs
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 @Guitar Compared with Kung Fu Panza, Uribe is a poster boy for physical fitness.

Mike Petriello
Mike Petriello moderator

Someone posted a link to the team photo from a few days ago - can anyone direct me to it?

Catfacts
Catfacts

People seem pretty resigned to the idea that the season is over. 

DBrim
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 @Cadtalfryn We're still within striking distance of the wild card.  The fat lady isn't singing yet.

Dang88
Dang88

 @DBrim  @Cadtalfryn Fuck the wild card we can win this division.....but if we must wild card would be better than nothing.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

 @Dang88  @Cadtalfryn If we make it past the play-in, we WOULD start off with two home games which, if we were a normal team, would work in our favor.  Not so sure if that's the case any more, though.

Catfacts
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 @DBrim Oh good I'm not banned. 

DBrim
DBrim moderator

 @Cadtalfryn It would be pretty funny to make somebody THINK they were banned, given what Livefyre actually does.

Mike Petriello
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Wow, I think this Giants series is kind of a big deal...

 

"MLB Network on Friday, Fox on Saturday and ESPN on Sunday"

DBrim
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 @Dang88 So let me get this straight (you put the lime in the coconut...)

 

It's not that we keep putting the cold hitters at the top of the lineup and the hot hitters at the bottom

It's not that we keep having stupid baserunning problems

It's not that our pitching staff is ridiculously banged up

It's not that we keep making in-game decisions that cost us runs...

 

It's that we haven't gelled.

Mike Petriello
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 @DBrim  @Dang88 well, can't it be all of those things?

DBrim
DBrim moderator

 @Mike Petriello  @Dang88 I don't know if it's that clear, though.  Remember he had a pretty big 0-fer (0 for 20 or so?) immediately after he got kicked out in Pittsburgh, which was before the wall incidents.

Mike Petriello
Mike Petriello moderator

 @DBrim  @Dang88 Right. Seems pretty clear to me that Kemp is still hurt. Is there anything more predictable than post-season news that he "played through pain to help the team"?

DBrim
DBrim moderator

 @Mike Petriello  @Dang88 To me, the whole "chemistry hasn't gelled" thing is just a narrative applied for people who don't want to look deeper into the underlying problems.  Kemp doesn't start chasing the breaking ball because the team hasn't gelled (and he's been slumping since well before The Trade, anyhow).  Adrian doesn't have BABIP problems because the team hasn't gelled.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Dang88 Ugh.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

Also: tomorrow is a fox game? Fuck. Guess I won't be watching it, then.

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EephusBlue
EephusBlue moderator

Earthquake or something?

PuroPincheMongolianVodka!
PuroPincheMongolianVodka! like.author.displayName 1 Like

A freakin pitt bull was chasing me today for 3 blocks on my bike, that was a bigger rush than a trip to Six Flags!

PuroPincheMongolianVodka!
PuroPincheMongolianVodka!

And now i looked it up, ok spray him in the face......in the moment you don't think you just haul ass on outta there! I took a stop sign (i should have turned right) just like the last time some dude tried to clothesline me off the bike i took a red light DOH!