Hey Man, You Jellin’?

Whether you are or aren’t, many seem to think that the recent struggles of the Dodgers have to do with the lack of colloids in which the disperse phase has combined with the dispersion medium to produce a semisolid material.

Writers!

Chris Haft & Ken Gurnick, MLB.com:

Despite adding slugging first baseman Adrian Gonzalez to their lineup, the Dodgers haven’t jelled offensively. They scored 20 runs in their seven-game homestand. Center fielder Matt Kemp, who denied injuring his shoulder while colliding with the Coors Field wall on Aug. 28, went 3-for-25 during the homestand. Gonzalez has one home run in 56 plate appearances since the Dodgers acquired him from Boston in a nine-player trade Aug. 25.

Ken Rosenthal, FOXsports.com:

The theory is this: The Los Angeles Dodgers have not yet jelled, and might not jell until next season, after their players have experienced a pennant race together and bonded over a full spring.

Fans!

“GuitarBilly” on dodgers.com:

I’m not saying he new owners should have done anything differently. They needed to show that are committed to putting a championship level team on the field they have done that. A lot people thought after the big deal that was it we had it all wrapped up. Everybody was talking about the west coast Yankees and all that. It doesn’t work that way. It a new team. It jells when it jells. If they can jell tomorrow in San Francisco we can still win this thing. The ring doesn’t go to the team with the highest payroll. It goes to the team that wins on the last day. It is what it is. I’m just tellin’ ya. :l)

Dodger players themselves!

Jamey Wright, quoted by Ken Gurnick, MLB.com:

“We’ve added a lot of pieces and we’re trying to jell, to get an identity,” he said. “We’ve scuffled, had some tough games. You hope the talent takes over and we can go on a run.”

Believe it or not, I do put some stock in the idea of chemistry; you don’t need to be on a baseball team to realize that you tend to work better and be more productive when you’re working with people you know, like, and trust. That said, I don’t think Kemp is hitting .182/.257/.258 over his last 18 games because he doesn’t know Nick Punto well enough. I don’t think Gonzalez is hitting .260/.321/.380 as a Dodger because he’s suddenly so shocked to have left friendly Boston for the terribly unfamiliar climate of Southern California. I don’t think that the starting pitching has been questionable because Joe Blanton & Josh Beckett are newcomers as much as I do that Chad Billingsley‘s UCL decided to stop “jelling”with the rest of his elbow.

In Kemp’s case, you could argue (not conclusively, I will grant, because he wasn’t totally tearing it up before this) that he’s mainly still feeling the aftereffects of repeated run-ins with the Colorado fence. In everyone else’s case? Unfortunately, slumps happen. We’ve seen it before, we’ll see it again, and arguing that the Gonzalez trade was a failure because he hasn’t been markedly better than James Loney over the last two weeks is foolish, because two weeks. We’re really going to let two weeks matter more than years of sustained excellence? It’s insane.

Now, where the “small sample size” argument runs into trouble is that the most important games of the season start tonight. Whether it’s “jelling” or an unfortunately timed slump or Jupiter being aligned with Venus as the rainy season starts in Asia, there’s just not time to sort this all out. If they’re making the playoffs, they need to start producing right now, tonight against Tim Lincecum, and win at the very least two of these three games.

I don’t think it’s too hard to see this collection of talent on offense turn it on quickly, and all of a sudden you’ve got the Kemp/Gonzalez/Hanley Ramirez/Andre Ethier heart of the order that really ought to be terrifying the entire league. If that happens, maybe it will be because they’ve “jelled”. Maybe it’ll because someone changed the music in the clubhouse. Maybe it’ll be because the clubhouse spread has a slightly different variety of meats and cheeses. Hard as it is for us to acknowledge, we’re never going to know exactly what causes a player or group of them to get ‘hot’ & ‘cold’.

If it doesn’t happen in the next three weeks – and let’s be honest, it needs to be the next three days – it’ll be terribly disappointing. But as we know, winning this year isn’t the only thing which matters. And when they do, whenever that is, we can all do our best to figure out what sort of gelatin-based lifeform is responsible.

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Mike Petriello
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Game thread coming.... nowish!

efb
efb

@Mike Petriello Is it nowish yet?

Catfacts
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I watched the bats feast in the twilight on the riverbanks. 

KirkDavenport
KirkDavenport

MLB Prospect Watch has finally included Yasiel Puig and Corey Seager in the rankings of Dodger prospects - at Puig #2 (ZLee #1) and Seager at #7

http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/mlb/minorleagues/affiliates/index.jsp?c_id=la

 

Puig is given an estimated time of arrival in the big leagues as 2015 and Seager as 2016

others

#1 ZLee -  ETA 2014

#3 Chris Reed  ETA 2013

#4 Joc Pederson  ETA 2015

 

check out the rest of the top 20 listed in the link with their bios and ETA's

 

Capnsparrow
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 @KirkDavenport Tyler Ogle never gets any love

KirkDavenport
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 @capnsparrow23 moving up fast though. He is on his 4th team this year after coming to ALB recently. He must have the respect of management if not the guys who rank prospects

Capnsparrow
Capnsparrow

 @KirkDavenport I like the kid ever since we drafted him out of OU he had a solid CWS for them and this year tore up the AZL then was jumped to the loons and something didnt mesh 2 weeks later he was demoted to the pioneer league fixed whatever was wrong and tore it up again then promptly sent back to greatlakes where he began to hit like I thought he would there. The jump to the PCL looks more like they figured he was good enough in LoA and were thinking of getting him in for 1 game in AAA. Bard has done all the work since Fedex was called up except for the 1 game I mentioned.

Table
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 @KirkDavenport I don't understand why Angel Sanchez is 5th

KirkDavenport
KirkDavenport

 @Table his numbers do not seem to warrant placement that high. Also he has an ETA of next year - do not see that yet

DBrim
DBrim moderator

Rain delay! Not used to those.

Dodgers' 7th Ring
Dodgers' 7th Ring

I have one thing to say to this post, #FREEDEEGORDON

Table
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 @JakeHorvitz he's worse than Juan Uribe. Maybe he can improve...but come on...NO we don't need him right now.

Disgruntled Goat
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 @Table  @JakeHorvitz I honestly don't understand how the team would not be improved by the addition of a very fast late inning pinch running option down the stretch. 

 

#FreeDeeGordon 

efb
efb

@JakeHorvitz Yeah look at this splits with Dee and without Dee lol

Dodgers' 7th Ring
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 @efb  @JakeHorvitz I dont even care if he plays, we need his energy and enthusiasm. Bobby abreu and juan rivera/uribe do not provide that

Dodgers' 7th Ring
Dodgers' 7th Ring

 @Table  @efb even when dee was struggling he never bitched about it he always had fun and smiled all the time. 

Dodgers' 7th Ring
Dodgers' 7th Ring

 @Table  @efb actually when he got hurt he was the only one playing well... including like a couple of 4 steal games that had him leading the NL in steals until like 3 weeks ago

Table
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 @JakeHorvitz  @efb There is no magic way to cure the personality the club. Oh wait yeah there is....WIN

Table
Table

 @JakeHorvitz  @efb I don't think Kemp is going to be in the mood to joke around or tweet about swag anyways

Table
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 @JakeHorvitz  @efb sounds like BS to me. How is he the only guy that has fun at the ballpark right now? He's not at the ballpark, and if I remember correctly the last time he WAS at the ballpark he was stinking horribly and getting frustrated about it. 

Dodgers' 7th Ring
Dodgers' 7th Ring

 @Table  @efb we need gordon to loosen up the team, hes the only guy who has fun at the ballpark right now. When they stop pressing so much because they are loosened up by Dees magic energy they will hit again

Table
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 @JakeHorvitz  @efb We need Kemp, Victorino, and Adrian to start hitting to the best of their abilities

efb
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To continue the discussion below, I'd love to get a baseball (not softball) game going for people who arent super serious baseball players. Anyone from the LA area down for something like this?

Tony Fernandez (SVS Afficionado)
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 @efb Down. The last softball league I was on was filled with people who couldn't hit the ball out of the infield, nor run that far. It was a joke.

 

Though I'm a terrible batter (haven't seen live pitching since little league). Pitching I might be up for. I do have a knuckleball, but I'm just not sure about how much it really flutters.

PuroPincheMongolianVodka!
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 @efb ME ME ME, i pass by and see old dudes playing softball at the park all the time and i'm like "dude what's the point of that?" Give me a real bat and a real ball, i don't give a damn if the game ends 0-0, you have to earn it! Though i'm sure it'll be hard to find pitchers who will want to throw hard for 100 pitches.....cut the games to 6 innings? I think i'm gonna go hit the batting cages again to work on my swing.

Weston Taylor (Has More ISO than any Dodger)
Weston Taylor (Has More ISO than any Dodger)

This team has been makes me laugh lately. First inning of two nights ago? I laughed. Harang bunting into a double play? Laughed. 

 

Adam Kennedy going 9-9, BB, 3 2B, 2 HR, 12 RBI against Cain and Lincecum? Violent, uncontrolled laughter that may result in a popped lung. 

PuroPincheMongolianVodka!
PuroPincheMongolianVodka!

 @WestonTaylor Hey guy, do you know of any wooden bat baseball leagues? Are they too hardcore for a regular stiff to join?

Crushinator (Bender lover)
Crushinator (Bender lover)

 @DodgersKingsoftheGalaxy  @WestonTaylor I know there is one around the LA area. http://pcbl.org/ they have wood bate and metal bat leagues.

I play in the metal bat league on Sundays at the "AAA" level. I was invited to play on a mid week wood bat team buuut...nah too far.

 

 

Fun tidbit: Last season the pitcher on my team was a guy named Onelki Garcia.

 

http://losangeles.sbnation.com/los-angeles-dodgers/2012/6/6/3067276/2012-mlb-draft-dodgers-steven-rodriguez-onelki-garcia

Weston Taylor (Has More ISO than any Dodger)
Weston Taylor (Has More ISO than any Dodger)

 @DodgersKingsoftheGalaxy Hmm, I know some of my brother's friends were trying to get a wood bat league together. I have no idea on the difficulty, though. I'm too scared to play hardball in a non-league setting...I guarantee I'd get beaned. Not intentionally, but because the pitcher can't control his shit. 

DBrim
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I am at a baseball game. This is weird. But free. http://twitter.com/DanielBrim/status/244197067512246272/photo/1

EephusBlue
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 @DBrim I dont want to alarm u but thats not a ballgame. That is a plate of food.

Disgruntled Goat
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 @DBrim very weird. enjoy. 

DBrim
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@el serracho Currently pouring but I am inside.