2012 Dodgers in Review #18: LF Shane Victorino

(w/ LA) .245/.316/.351 235pa 2hr 15sb 1.1 fWAR D

2012 in brief: Unpopular deadline day import was a huge disappointment in left field.

2013 status: Free agent, and hopefully one who suckers some other team into a multi-year deal.

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Remember, when Shane Victorino arrived on July 31, there wasn’t exactly a high bar for him to clear. He merely had to be better than Bobby Abreu, who was DFA’d to make room, and in that – if only that – he was, especially on defense. It really can’t be overstated just how bad left field was this year and how badly an upgrade was needed, which you’ll remember from our welcome to Victorino that day:

As I noted yesterday, left field is an absolute disaster right now, one that often gets lost among the James Loney & Juan Uribe infield atrocities. So make no mistake, whatever you think of Victorino, he is an upgrade both offensively and defensively over Bobby Abreu, Juan Rivera and friends. That says a lot more about the incumbents than it does about Victorino, of course, but how much of an improvement really depends on which Victorino we’re going to be seeing. He’s in the midst of the worst year of his career, as his power and on-base skills have each largely disappeared, though he’s still effective on the bases (24 steals in 28 tries). This year, as over his career, he’s been crushing lefties, but the less said about his performance against righties the better. Since I really, really doubt he was acquired to be a platoon outfielder, that’s something we’re going to have to live with.

Still, the team is better with him in the outfield than it was without him, so that’s something.

Unfortunately for the rest of us, “being better than Abreu” is about the only positive thing we can say about Victorino’s time in LA, and you can follow his decline along with his position in the batting order. For his first 23 games as a Dodger, he was the leadoff man, tasked with getting on base so that heart of the order could take advantage of his speed to move him around the bases. It didn’t work; he hit .258/.314/.371 in that initial stretch at the top. Okay, fine, leadoff might not be right; what about second? On August 28, Don Mattingly placed Mark Ellis at the top and bumped Victorino down, hoping it would spark something. It did, but only more fan frustration when Victorino then hit .222/.306/.259 in 14 starts there.

On September 13, after we joked that Victorino could never really quit the Phillies, Mattingly all but admitted defeat by moving Victorino down to sixth in the order. All we could do was laugh at how bad it was:

Don Mattingly, to his credit, is finally accepting that he needs to do something to shake up the order, and whipping boy Shane Victorino has finally been bumped down to sixth, where he’ll strand the heart of the order when they finally decide to get on base and then ensure that Luis Cruz & A.J. Ellis bat with no one on base. (Joking, but only sort of.)

It didn’t matter. Over the final 16 games of the year, he hit .246/.328/.404, once even hitting as low as seventh, and while you can live with losing Josh Lindblom & Ethan Martin (and, ha, Stefan Jarrin, but who cares) to upgrade a position during a playoff push, it’s hard to stomach when the return ends up being so eminently disappointing.

Once again, I can’t help but point out that before the season, Victorino thought he might be in line for a five-year deal. On the wrong side of 30, coming off a poor season, he’ll be lucky if he can find three. Let’s just hope that it’s some other team who hands it to him.

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Next up! You know what? I still like Bobby Abreu!

256 comments
Mike Petriello
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all your bobby abreu are belong to us... in a NEW POST.

GordonMoody
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4 MORE YEARS.....Of Andre Ethier!

Mike Petriello
Mike Petriello moderator

6 year minor league FA list from BA:

 

 

RHP: Lorenzo Barcelo (AAA), Danny Carela (LoA), Tim Corcoran (AAA), Amalio Diaz (LoA), Francisco Felix (AAA), Angel Guzman (AAA), Fernando Nieve (AAA), Sean O'Connell (R), Mike Parisi (AAA), Eammon Portice (HiA), Wes Roemer (AA), Will Savage (AAA), Ramon Troncoso (AAA)

 

LHP: Derrick Loop (AAA), Scott Rice (AAA), Erick Threets (AAA)

 

2B: Luis Nunez (AA), Gabe Suarez (HiA)

 

3B: Josh Fields (AAA), C.J. Retherford (AA)

 

OF: Tyler Henson (AA), Brahiam Maldonado (AA), Roman Pena (LoA)

Sideshow Dave
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 @Mike Petriello I seem to remember reading Retherford had kind of a breakout year... So I checked, and saw he had a gorgeous .343/.395/.633 line... But then I saw that was at Rancho as a 27 year old.. never mind.

Capnsparrow
Capnsparrow

 @Mike Petriello Ive been wondering why all of the prospects we still have were drafted the year Ned got here 

EephusBlue
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Waaaaaaaiiitamniute!!  SHane is still up WTF?!?

Mike Petriello
Mike Petriello moderator

 @EephusBlue I have an 11am (ET) meeting, will post Abreu after. Also, PATIENCE, young Padowan.

dustybakersoldtoothpick
dustybakersoldtoothpick

Clayton says his hip is fine in mlb network interview.  So, in the future, if I act out and rant about fear of injury to our ace, you all have permission to remind me of how fail it was to do that before, and remind me to somewhat trust the training staff because that's all we can do, injury or not.  I never really apologized for the past outburst and making a couple of threads kind of miserable for all, especially the regulars, so sorry for real.

Mike Petriello
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 @dustybakersoldtoothpick aww. That's nice of you, but I don't ever want you to think you can't make your opinion be heard. Besides, you came close to being right because we didn't even know about his hip at the time of the whole foot conversation.

Catfacts
Catfacts

Abreu was a good pickup, I say I say.

Mike Petriello
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Abreu review goes up this morning in a little while.

 

Election post goes up sometime this afternoon before I leave work (guess around 2-3 PT)

 

No politics before that!

 

 

DBrim
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@Mike Petriello You're going to make me hang out in an Abreu post?

Disgruntled Goat
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 @Mike Petriello I vote no election post at all. 

 

 

 

 

my vote doesn't count, does it? 

Mike Petriello
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 @Disgruntled Goat if i don't do it, then it'll seep into the baseball post and just annoy everyone.

IBBFTW
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@Disgruntled Goat @Mike Petriello Civility and Humor.

Disgruntled Goat
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 @Mike Petriello I ..ummmm.. i hope that those that are able to maintain civility can convince those that cannot to join them. good luck. 

socalkid21
socalkid21

Should we be worried A-rod is shopping for homes in LA?

DBrim
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@socalkid21 No.

socalkid21
socalkid21

 @DBrim  @socalkid21 That was my first response when Halo fans started razzing me at work . . . then I realized if NY eats 70% or more of the salary . . . would Ned really say no? Hot corner has been a revolving door since Beltre and I doubt they view Cruuuuuz as the most stable solution . . .

IBBFTW
IBBFTW

@socalkid21 @DBrim When it comes to Ned, the answer is always NO. :) Besides, Hanley needs a position

Catfacts
Catfacts

Pretty much everyone in class decided to subtly wear either red or blue today.

WBBsAs
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 @Cadtalfryn Brown Shirts would seem more accurate and appropriate than red.

(VND) Supreme Moderator
(VND) Supreme Moderator

Do it do it do it do it

DodgerRob
DodgerRob

 @VietnamDodger I can't. I moved to Ohio (where my vote might actually matter), but I haven't been here the required 30 days to vote. It just didn't seem worth it to vote in Ca, when I don't even live there.