Happy 85th Birthday, Vin Scully

I don’t believe in any particular deity, but any power cool enough to drop a rainbow on Vin Scully day is the closest I’ve come to reconsidering.

I post about this every year on this day, and I’m not sure why I would stop now: happy birthday to the best there is and ever will be. Every additional year we get with Vin is a gift, especially now that he’s on a year-to-year basis and we never know when might be his last.

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I was largely out of the loop yesterday due to day job related business, so I think I missed a lot of derpitude about this tidbit from ESPN’s Mark Saxon that the Dodgers had “inquired” about Kyle Lohse, which turned into this tweet saying they were “showing interest,” which then turned into an MLB Trade Rumors story, because that’s what MLBTR does.

This all makes for a good opportunity to step back and remember the media rules of the offseason, which is that 99% of rumors are fake. In this case, it’s not even a “rumor”, because the story here is apparently that the Dodgers placed a phone call. The Dodgers, like every organization, would not be doing due diligence if they didn’t at least reach out to anyone on their radar. There’s nothing here that indicates the call was anything more than ringing up Lohse’s agent and saying “wait, he really wants more than $40 and a bus ticket, even though he’s inconsistent, overrated, injury-prone, and would cost a first round pick? Yeah, good luck with that.”

Or it could go the other way, in which the Dodgers just want to remind Zack Greinke – who is their true target – that they have other options should his demands get too unreasonable. The point is, these things may be enough to get Twitter in a fury, but it’s far from appropriate to pillage the Dodgers as though Lohse is headed to the park to sign a contract. (Which, in case I haven’t been clear, would be awful.)

I have sources too, and it’s of course up to you as to whether you want to trust me or not, but I’ve been assured that the Dodgers have little true interest in Lohse. I’m not worried about it. You shouldn’t be either.

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The Dodgers aren’t going to sign Lohse, but they are going to sign at least two pitchers, and perhaps three. I still firmly believe they’ll end up with Greinke (my current estimate is now 6/140 with an option for a seventh year) and the only conceivable way they’re not ending up with Hyun-jin Ryu is if they somehow manage to get Greinke and another starter like Anibal Sanchez or James Shields. I don’t think even the new Dodgers are crazy enough to pay to get Greinke and Sanchez – especially not with Clayton Kershaw‘s free agency looming – and they just don’t have the prospects to get Shields. Ryu’s made it clear he wants to pitch in America, his Korean team obviously wants the posting fee… there’s like a 95% chance this is getting done.

But who else? Brandon League may be back in the fold, but Jamey Wright & Randy Choate aren’t, and it’s likely the team adds at least one veteran reliever. Tim Brown of Yahoo! reports that likely non-tender Brian Wilson would like to pitch for the Dodgers. Whether that’s true or not, I can’t say, though unlike many of you, I don’t really care that he’s an ex-Giant. (Juan Uribe‘s terrible because he’s terrible, not because he used to play in San Francisco.) Even if he would like to join the Dodgers, it doesn’t matter unless the team has some interest, and I doubt they will – Wilson’s unlikely to pitch until mid-2013 at the earliest anyway, given that he had Tommy John surgery on April 19 of this season. Besides, if we want a former closer coming off a zipper, a more reasonable target might be Joakim Soria, who I’m quite sure the team has had some contact with.

Another fun option comes courtesy of ESPN’s Jayson Stark, who reports that the Angels are making Jordan Walden available, and while this of course falls under the “don’t believe everything you read” category we just discussed, it’s a lot more fun to think about than Lohse. A 25-year-old flamethrower with a career 10.83 K/9, 2.80 FIP, 3.06 ERA, and some assorted control problems? Yes. Please.

Obviously, trades between the two clubs are rare, though it’s well-known that the Angels need starting pitching. Assuming Greinke & Ryu land, would I trade an excess starter like Aaron Harang or Ted Lilly and a mid-level prospect for Walden? You’re damn right I would. The only problem there is that it might be an excuse for Ned Colletti to dream on Vernon Wells as his answer to the ongoing need of a righty bat who can play multiple outfield positions, and that’s of course terrifying. However, I do like Walden..

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Today’s a big day simply because of Vin’s birthday, but don’t forget that tomorrow has a lot of significance as well, given that it’s the end of the exclusive Fox negotiating period for a new television deal. It was reported the other day that they’d strike a deal between $6 – $7 billion, and maybe they will, but I wouldn’t be so sure. As I noted on Twitter on Tuesday, players almost always get bigger deals when they reach free agency and can field offers from many teams. The same principle applies here; what’s to stop the Dodgers from shopping these rights around and getting more? For the record, I never believed Nikki Finke’s insistence that Fox would drop out if they didn’t get a deal done by tomorrow – it just doesn’t make sense. Is $8 billion out of the question? $9 billion? It all sounds absurd, and it is, but just remember the shock around baseball at the original report, and then imagine what it’ll be like if they actually top that. (Borrowed that GIF at the right from good friend “EephusBlue”, and it couldn’t be more appropriate.)

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Hey, it could always be worse – on Vin’s 84th birthday, Frank McCourt still owned the team and they were close to signing Adam Kennedy. I’d say… things are slightly better now.

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Gilbert_Vengeance
Gilbert_Vengeance

Couple of snippets from Buster's Espn Blog.

 

• The Los Angeles Dodgers met with Zack Greinke Thursday. The expectation is that they will offer Long Beach and parts of Bakersfield to him, in the end.

 

 

• If the Pirates are ready to trade Joel Hanrahan, the Dodgers are ready to discuss, and have starting pitching to offer (like Chris Capuano). But the fact that Pittsburgh agreed to terms with Martin probably means that the Pirates are making a push for 2013 and trading their closer wouldn't seem to fit that.

 

Would love me some Hanrahan for Cappy if we sign Greinke.

Mike Petriello
Mike Petriello moderator

RT @JonHeymanCBS: my aj pierzynski dodger speculation was nothing more than that, probably less. person w/ knowledge says "not happening''

 

herp a derp

LA_Woman
LA_Woman

Carol Dean-Porter: They are enlarging the club houses and changing the seating configuration a bit. Also making the stadium compliant with the Americans With Disabilities act. See the tiny block of yellow seats just to the left of the visitors dugout? They are moving those around and experimenting with sight lines. There is a string of yellow tape going from home plate up to those seats so they can figure out where exactly to start the seating blocks. Should be interesting.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/28026_447514821976140_1142541306_n.jpg

MSTI OG
MSTI OG

I warned all of you. Nothing is free.

capnsparrow
capnsparrow

David wright is going to be a mutt for the rest of his career

EephusBlue
EephusBlue moderator

Aight just wanted to throw that comment in there. TIme for bed cuz i gotta wake up really early.

 

But much respect to Michael Bertram Petriello who has contacts and knows a helluva lot more than many of the so called top Dodger bloggers out there. There is a reason he says dont believe 99% of what you hear.

 

Nite!

EephusBlue
EephusBlue moderator

U know what? 99% of the bloggers out there that people respect as knowledgeable know jack shit as far as the truth of the rumors circulating. People who do know stuff dont say anything

capnsparrow
capnsparrow

One final point as to the genuine needs of the club in this off season. Back when Buzzy Bavasi was the GM. He built the Dodgers around pitching first. Then speed and defense. Dodger Stadium was built perfectly to house these attributes. They easily could have built the park higher above ground and gave it shorter alleys and porches. Although those damnable corners have always infuriated me. Other clubs seem to hit more balls in them than we do. I am in no way interested in trading Dee Gordon for anybody period. We need his speed. We also need him to be Major League quality, both in the field and at the plate. We need Grinky. A 2nd Cy Young caliber pitcher to team with Kershaw. And we need a deep,solid bench that can provide both defense and power at the plate. Our back end of the pen is good enough to win with now but Ned will undoubtedly fuck with it cause that's what he does. So Ned if you by chance happen to see this. Sign Grinky STAT!

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Mike Petriello When I grow up, I want to be paid to make up shit and present it as news. Seems like an easy job.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Catfishin One is the loneliest number.

LA_Woman
LA_Woman

 @capnsparrow Yep just saw that. Can't get the "source's" article to come up without crashing my browser though.

 

MSTI OG
MSTI OG

 @LA Woman yes. shes... north vietnamese. she thinks everything should be done this way

LA_Woman
LA_Woman

 @VietnamDodger Also... everything is relative. What is out of the stratosphere expensive to me is a drop in the bucket to others. Like the Guugs.

MSTI OG
MSTI OG

 @LA Woman my Miele dishwasher was expensive. This is just dumbness

LA_Woman
LA_Woman

 @The_Real_Paul  @capnsparrow The Mets and David Wright have agreed to the largest contract in franchise history, according to WFAN's Ed Coleman.  Coleman says it's seven years and $122MM in new money, which can be considered an eight-year, $138MM deal if the value of Wright's already-exercised 2013 club option is included.  In that sense, Wright passed Johan Santana's $137.5MM deal from February 2008. Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/mets-extend-david-wright.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#vT2m9KIItTeCAx6h.99

capnsparrow
capnsparrow

 @The_Real_Paul I know for a fact he does occasionally wade into this particular blogs comments. Think about it. Dodgers .com is so full of trolls and double digit IQ's I have all but quit going there. The rest of the Dodger blogs have very few comments. Especially when compared to Mike's blog. In fact his comment counts rival Dodgers.com and may be higher. But I'm not sure about the last part. 

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Catfishin Yes.

MSTI OG
MSTI OG

 @capnsparrow Well... i am in an apartment so it wasnt the best investment. but I was... am... a bad investor of money

MSTI OG
MSTI OG

 @capnsparrow My mom just threw everything in it and was pissed off at how complex it was to turn it on. fuckin pissed off.... 

MSTI OG
MSTI OG

 @LA Woman in the US. but this is how young women in education dress. covered from neck to toe. 

LA_Woman
LA_Woman

 @VietnamDodger Wait. So she lives in American (or Mexico) and she dresses like this all the time?

DeucesWild
DeucesWild

 @LA Woman  Good for him and their fans. The ownership got a lot of crap from fans after trading away Reyes

capnsparrow
capnsparrow

 @The_Real_Paul So many people were fired by flank and his ho that we may never know the extent of his avarice.

Paulstralia
Paulstralia

 @capnsparrow i have a feeling Kasten is the GM and Ned is the "GM". But I don't really know the inner workings of the front office. 

capnsparrow
capnsparrow

 @The_Real_Paul I can't say one way or the other on that but Kasten doesn't seem to think he's not worth grooming.

Paulstralia
Paulstralia

 @capnsparrow oh no, not insinuating that. Just saying, once you're rich and don't give a fuck what customers think, you could tell them to go fuck themselves. But clearly Ned is actually a very nice guy who seems to be in way over his head.