Winter Meetings, Day Two: Much Ado About Nothing

So after all the buildup to the winter meetings… things have been really, really quiet today. Unless you’re a Boston fan, of course, in which case – enjoy three years of Shane Victorino, guys! Things have reached the point where Ned Colletti is telling people that he doesn’t expect to have Zack Greinke or much of anything else complete before the end of the meetings, and while I don’t really think they’ll end the week having accomplished nothing, I do believe it’s possible the Greinke talks could drag on.

To other news of the day…

* Hyun-jin Ryu receives and rejects an offer.

Snooze. I have to be honest, I’m having a hard time getting invested in this. Everything Scott Boras says is merely posturing – I’m pretty sure “having Ryu play in Japan” isn’t even a thing that can happen – and no one should hate on him for doing it, because he’s the best at what he does. If anything, I’m somewhat surprised at the amount of people who heard this news and assumed that means Ryu is definitely not coming to the Dodgers; far from it. As I’ve said, the only way I see this deal not getting done is if the Dodgers somehow come out of the meetings with Greinke and James Shields or R.A. Dickey, and that’s incredibly unlikely. Boras wants a short deal so Ryu can reach free agency quickly, the Dodgers want to keep him under team control for as long as they can, so my guess is that when this is settled, it’ll be for something like 4/$32m.

* Skip Schumaker: for when having employed Aaron Miles & Nick Punto isn’t enough!

Ken Gurnick notes that the Dodgers may have interest in the soon-to-be 33-year-old Schumaker, who has spent the last eight years in St. Louis transitioning from “outfielder” to “starting second baseman” to “2B/OF hybrid”. He’d solve the problem of finding a backup for Matt Kemp in center, and while he’s not really a good second baseman, the fact that he’s a lefty with a huge platoon split would make him a good partner for Mark Ellis, who just cannot hit righty pitching. Schumaker’s under contract for $1.5m in 2013 so he’d need to be traded for, but there is this fun fact: his .310 wOBA matched that of Victorino’s in 2012. Ha!

Gurnick also adds that there’s some interest in Eric Chavez, coming off a good season for the Yankees. I wanted the Dodgers to sign him prior to 2011, and while he’s constantly battling injury, he’d make for an interesting addition to the 3B/1B mix.

* People are still interested in Dee Gordon.

This is potentially hearsay, but Scott Miller of CBS says that the Dodgers are getting a good deal of interest in Gordon, with Seattle being among the strongest suitors. That’s interesting to me because I’ve always felt that if the Dodgers were going to trade Gordon, it’d be as a piece in a deal for a Dodger target, not because someone else was targeting Gordon. (If that makes sense. Reading it now, it may not.) Assuming we’re all bright enough not to even mention the name of a certain pitcher, it’s an odd fit. The only Mariner who piques my interest even a little is third baseman Kyle Seager, brother of Dodger prospect Corey, but the worst-hitting team in baseball probably doesn’t want to trade one of their only decent bats to import one of the weakest hitters around. I’m not sure I see this one going anywhere.

* Should the Dodgers want a catcher?

I love A.J. Ellis and you all know that, but there’s reason to want to make sure that he’s a little more well-rested than he was in 2012, where he clearly wore down at the end of the season, and I don’t have a ton of faith in Tim Federowicz. So when I see Peter Abraham tweet this…

It gets me thinking. The Sox tried to acquire Chris Capuano at the end of 2011, and right now their rotation after Jon Lester & Clay Buchholz is… John Lackey, Franklin Morales, and Felix Doubront. Gross. Yet after signing David Ross & Mike Napoli (who will play mostly first base, though perhaps not exclusively) to go with Jarrod Saltalamacchia and Ryan Lavarnway, there’s clearly a surplus. A fit? Perhaps. Perhaps not.

* And finally, if you’ve made it this far…

Sorry, no specifics on this one, because I can’t independently verify it. I am reasonably sure the Dodgers are making progress on a trade for a veteran American League non-closing lefty reliever. That’s not the same as saying this will happen, of course, and it very well may not. Just something fun to chew on. No, I won’t tell you who if you guess.

More tomorrow!

336 comments
Gilbert_Vengeance
Gilbert_Vengeance

Does a pitcher really pick the Rangers over the Dodgers? Not just cuz im a Dodger fan but really? How is this such a hard choice? I dont get whats the hold up.

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Shakin's article on expectations was......illuminating.  

 

"Would the Dodgers' 2013 season be a failure if the team did not win the World Series?

Stan Kasten leaned forward in his chair. The Dodgers' president was one of a handful of team executives listening in as General Manager Ned Colletti briefed the media Tuesday.

"I'm waiting for Ned to answer," Kasten said. "I want to know the answer.""

 

I think everyone's jobs are on the line this season. Even Donnie knows that having the #1 payroll is a target on his back.

 

Mike Petriello
Mike Petriello moderator

I guess I should put up a new post for today's winter meetings, but, ugh

Dang88
Dang88

Just rambling here but I'm torn on Greinke I think this 160 million price tag(just a rumor of course) is a lot for him, but also it may not be because of how shitty next years market is and also if we got Sanchez I would be saying the same thing. I just want to get him already so I don't have to think anymore

EephusBlue
EephusBlue moderator

PEOPLE! WHY ARENT YOU AWAKE!

Kewldood69
Kewldood69

As much as I want Grienke, paying a guy 160 million who ranked twenty-something overall in the last two years in ERA seems a bit shitty.

DeucesWild
DeucesWild

Random opinion: The only negative part of Gangs of New York is DiCaprio's attempt at an Irish accent that magically appears and disappears throughout the movie. That is all.

Paulstralia
Paulstralia

The next sports writer to use post season statistics as an argument gets flagged. 

EephusBlue
EephusBlue moderator

I agree with Goat. All this talk of the Dodgers being the front runner to sign Greinke means shit until he is actually signed. One possible thing to consider, the Rangers want Greinke but also are pretty desperate to keep Hamilton with napoli being gone. I would like to think having Hamilton's monster demands in the background will keep them from going too ape shit bidding against us. But yeah, I really want him signed in the next 48hrs.

Gilbert_Vengeance
Gilbert_Vengeance

For a pitcher who reportedly loves to hit:

NL>AL

Dodger Stadium>Texas

Facing pitcher>DH

 

i can go on.... Taxes? OH GOD really? maybe i should move to the fucking humility of Texas from my comfortable Cali weather cuz of fucking taxes... this is getting ridiculous.  

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 @Gilbert_Vengeance  I think he wants to win a W.S. But he is maybe wondering if these Bums are a better choice than the Bills ERM Rangers. Expectations would be high either way. Heavy is the head that wears the crown.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Gilbert_Vengeance TLDR

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Mike Petriello Winter meetings: everybody's talking about nothing

HarryDoyle
HarryDoyle

 @Dang88 We just need to be sure to retain Kershaw.  please, please, please.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@EephusBlue 5 more minutes

DeucesWild
DeucesWild

 @Kewldood69 I agree, but are the demands Sanchez has that much better as far as talent to dollars? Shields would be awesome if we could land him somehow

Batted Bob
Batted Bob

 @Deuces Wild completely overshadowed by the greatest movie character of all time Bill the Butcher.

DeucesWild
DeucesWild

 @EephusBlue I would love for us to get Greinke and someone like Baltimore get Hamilton so the Rangers are left with their dicks in their hands

EephusBlue
EephusBlue moderator

Ned Colletti face :--{0

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 @Gilbert_Vengeance The AL west is no picnic either. The NL is stronger, but he's got a real shot in the NL west. And if they stink, we get new people :)

Dang88
Dang88

 @EephusBlue  @Gilbert_Vengeance For me the only way he doesn't come here is if he doesn't want to be here in that case fuck him or Texas goes wild with the contract

Dang88
Dang88

 @Catfishin I agree and can respect that, but seriously......The BoSox seen 13 mill in Dick?

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@Deuces Wild @Kewldood69 inflation is a Bitch.

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@HarryDoyle @Catfishin his ego over Theo probably will cost him his job. And we benefited >:)

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@EephusBlue @Mike Petriello @DBrim Your coffee is weak. Make it STRONGER

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Oakland has a pretty strong and young club@EephusBlue @capnsparrow @The_Real_Paul @Deuces Wild