2012 Dodgers in Review #38: RP Mike MacDougal

7.94 ERA 4.86 FIP 5.2 IP 6.35 K/9 9.53 BB/9 -0.1 fWAR (inc., but… F)

2012 in brief: Proved us all right by lasting barely a month into the season before getting whacked, then pitched poorly in Triple-A for Cubs & Nationals organizations.

2013 status: Some team will give him a token non-roster invite to camp, because of course they will.

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Pretty sure my feelings on Mike MacDougal were made clear the day in early January that he signed, considering I named the post, “Mike MacDougal Close to Returning to Dodgers; Allows Inherited Runner to Score“. As we knew at the time, expecting him to be successful merely because he had a nice 2011 ERA was a gambit all but certain to fail:

Shiny ERA strikes again! This move has been such a fait acompli for such a long time that the only real surprise is that A) it took so long to actually happen and B) that it wasn’t for two guaranteed years. You know the story by now: MacDougal was fine as a non-roster invite, despite barely striking out more than he walked, constantly inflating the ERA of others by allowing their runners to score, and having a FIP of 3.96 that is far more accurate than that fancy 2.05 ERA. For a zero-risk warm body, fine. On any sort of guaranteed major league deal? Well, you’ll notice we haven’t heard a whole lot about other teams beating down his door, right? The fun part will be when he pitches exactly the same as he did in 2011, but his ERA balloons to 4.04, and people will complain about how he’s all of a sudden terrible.

Well, I wasn’t totally right, because he didn’t pitch exactly the same as he did in 2011; he was worse, allowing 15 baserunners in 5.1 innings over seven April games, including two separate stretches of at least a week where Don Mattingly refused to use him. Going back to when he was signed, we had a pretty good guess of where this was going to end up:

I’m kidding, sort of, because one year and $1m is practically nothing these days. It’s just about the lowest amount you can even give a player with MacDougal’s experience, and when he’s inevitably DFA’d by July, it won’t be anything worth complaining about.

So close! He was actually DFA’d on May 3. If anything, I was surprised that he was let go so quickly when Ronald Belisario returned, considering that Josh Lindblom still had options and that while MacDougal was on a guaranteed contract, Jamey Wright was not. So kudos, I suppose, to Ned Colletti for swallowing his mistake; on the other hand, that hardly cancels out having made it in the first place, because again — this was never, ever a good idea.

After getting borked, MacDougal went to Iowa to pitch for the Triple-A affiliate of the Cubs, but he was released there as well after a 7.85 ERA in 19 games, and ended his summer in the Washington organization pitching in Syracuse. In 29 innings between the two Triple-A clubs, he walked 24. Not exactly where he anticipated his season would conclude, I imagine, but pretty much exactly where we would have expected.

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Next up in the review series! Out with the old, in with the Paco Rodriguez!

316 comments
Mike Petriello
Mike Petriello moderator

I am really glad I got the site back up for this.

Dang88
Dang88

Swisher is a douche .....that is all

Dang88
Dang88

Well Dodgers are listening but not interested in trading him well that's that

Real Tom
Real Tom

Can't help but fear that it's an Ethier and others for Beltre type deal. Does Beltre still have no-trade protection (I remember the Dodgers were on his no trade list years ago)?

Dang88
Dang88

I'm here for the Ethier trade talk

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@DodgerBlues Ned Colletti in possession of pics showing Vin Scully engaged in group sex w/ underage terrorists. Only conceivable way Ned still has a job.

Disgruntled Goat
Disgruntled Goat moderator

BIG DRAMA IN THE CITY O' ORANGE THIS MORNING. 

 

lulz. 

 

I'm a sound sleeper and i wake much later than the wife. I had no idea the time when my wife is at the foot of the bed shaking my foot to get me up. YOU HAVE TO GET UP WE HAVE TO GO! 

 

So i get up just as there's a loud crack and the lights go out. Then back on. THERE'S A FIRE THERE'S A FIRE!

 

Go to back door and look out a half block away there is indeed a fire above the rooftops, is a transformer on a pole next to the tennis courts at Chapman University. (BIG crash and lights go on, off, and on again.

 

CALL 911! So i get my phone, i'm giggling at my wife's reaction now and getting yelled at for it. Call 911, they say "are you calling about the transformer fire? yep. Any structures burning? nope. Thank you"

 

So yeah, big explosions, but i walked over there is just a pole burning by the sidewalk. Stayed long enough to see fire trucks show up (cops already cordoned off area). 

 

Laughed a bit with neighbors about our morning. 

 

AND THAT....

 

Is what the goat is up at this hour. 

Mike Petriello
Mike Petriello moderator

Guess I'll have to hold off on Hanrahan till tomorrow, time to write on Ethier.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@FeisandNYDN Source: Dodgers shopping Andre Ethier. If they deal him, they could be in the mix for Nick Swisher.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Mike Petriello Knowing what I know (less than you), I'd say maybe 5% odds that Dre gets traded. Am I underselling it?

Real Tom
Real Tom

And obviously, it's the "and others" part that I would fear. One can say that Kasten has kept Ned from getting out of hand, but even then he let Ned give up some of the only high upside prospects we had in a deal that probably shouldn't have involved them. De la Rosa should never have been included.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Dang88 Probably much ado about nothing.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Disgruntled Goat I think there's too much we don't know.

Disgruntled Goat
Disgruntled Goat moderator

here's the close to the parentheses i owe you - )

DBrim
DBrim moderator

Kinda makes sense given Mike's cryptic comment last night.

Mike Petriello
Mike Petriello moderator

 @DBrim  I would say higher than 5, less than 50. I actually ended the article i'm about to publish with that.

Omer (beercoozie)
Omer (beercoozie)

 @Real Tom I don't know man. Yeah, LA had to take Crawford, Punto, and Beckett to get AGonz, but Loney wasn't going to seal that deal. Boston had to get a player or two worth a damn to give up a great 1B.

Disgruntled Goat
Disgruntled Goat moderator

 @Real Tom he's not exactly in decline but he's signed for three more years and i assume numbers inflated a bit by that park. 

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Disgruntled Goat Okay.

Mike Petriello
Mike Petriello moderator

 @Disgruntled Goat nothing specific. I've just been hearing rumors about their willingness to deal him for a while and kept it quiet because it was nothing I could share. Now that the Daily News is out with it, it's worth discussing.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

Ethier + Capuano + Cash to Rangers for Olt?

DINGERS!
DINGERS!

@DBrim Dre and Cap with money eaten, but don't tell Texas. They are getting desperate though if they are pursuing Dre and Pitching

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@IBBFTW I think you're dramatically overestimating Dre's trade value if you think he can bring Profar.

DINGERS!
DINGERS!

@Disgruntled Goat @Real Tom Bing. I'll live with moving Dre for Profar. Olt would need other pieces from their farm if Dre and Cap are trade bait.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Omer @Disgruntled Goat He is what he is. I don't think Swisher over him is a great advantage, but I'd think that Kasten probably knows that.

Omer (beercoozie)
Omer (beercoozie)

 @Disgruntled Goat   @DBrim Few players are at Piazza levels, but Ethier has a lot of upside. Let's not forget that we all we lovin' it when he got the nickname "Captain Clutch", or how the first month of last season was the Matt & Dre Show.

Disgruntled Goat
Disgruntled Goat moderator

 @DBrim  He is, however, a popular Dodger. Especially with the so called "casual fans."

 

If they trade him, I certainly hope they field a better team as a result. 

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Omer @Disgruntled Goat I hate to break it to you, but Ethier isn't anywhere near as good as Piazza was.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Disgruntled Goat Most of Bourn's value comes from fielding. If you move him out of center (which they probably would), then why sign him?

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Disgruntled Goat That too.

Disgruntled Goat
Disgruntled Goat moderator

 @DBrim just looked him up, i thought he had more than 40 PAs. I was wrong.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Disgruntled Goat I'm not sold on Swisher being better than Ethier, especially in a few years.

Disgruntled Goat
Disgruntled Goat moderator

 @DBrim  Maybe, but whenever i see pre-arb players like that I'm highly skeptical. Would be nice though. Him and Swisher would (ahem) fill our holes nicely. 

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Disgruntled Goat I think it's pretty clear that Texas will trade him. They have Profar, Andrus, and Beltre blocking him. We don't have a great set of prospects to deal from but if you start including major league pieces we might be able to make things happen.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Mike Petriello @Disgruntled Goat Oh dear. We shall see, I like Olt a lot and he'd potentially fill a big hole on our team.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Disgruntled Goat There's nowhere to put him.

Disgruntled Goat
Disgruntled Goat moderator

 @DBrim  yeah. sigh. 

 

i think i may not like this move. 

 

swisher is a switch hitter, right?

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Disgruntled Goat Having him or Ethier seems like an either/or. Doubtful that having both fits.

Disgruntled Goat
Disgruntled Goat moderator

 @DBrim  Swisher is obv not horrible and he can play 1B, right? I think trading Eth is a bad PR move, personally. 

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@Disgruntled Goat Basically saying we might still sign Swisher.