Clayton Kershaw Is Going To Get All of the Dollars

“You may have thought you heard me say I wanted a lot of money, but what I said was: Give me all the money you have." (via)

“You may have thought you heard me say I wanted a lot of money, but what I said was: Give me all the money you have.” (via)

As the Dodgers have gone on an unprecedented spending spree, there’s still the great white whale out there: the little matter of Clayton Kershaw, who will become a free agent following the 2014 season and certainly command a massive long-term deal. We know that Kershaw’s representatives and the team have had preliminary discussions about an extension, but so far nothing substantive has come out. (At least publicly.)

Over at FanGraphs this week, Dave Cameron notes that not only is Kershaw going to be a free agent in two more seasons, so are fellow aces Justin Verlander & Felix Hernandez. While that potentially sets up a phenomenal 2014-15 spending spree for teams looking to collect high-end pitching, I think we all know by now that players of that caliber almost never actually hit the open market. If even one of those three is a free agent that winter, I’ll be shocked.

Anyway, what’s going to happen in two years is a question for another time; for now, Cameron investigates what might happen if they were to sign extensions this winter, with two more years before free agency. Since Verlander & Hernandez had already signed contracts that bought out some of their free agent years, they’re making more than Kershaw is, and that might factor in:

Kershaw’s overall deal will probably reflect a slightly lower total, simply because he’s under contract for $11 million this year and is still bound by arbitration next year, and the Dodgers are under no compulsion to raise those salaries to something closer to the $20 million that Hernandez and Verlander are earning. So, even if he gets a higher AAV due to his youth and Dodgerness, we’re still probably looking at most a $25 million AAV for the years getting bought out, or $125 million from 2015 through 2019. If we assume his arbitration payout for 2014 would be in the $18 million range and the team just guarantees that as part of the deal, that would push his total value to $144 million over seven years.

I doubt that it’s a controversial statement to say that if the Dodgers were to sign Kershaw for 7/$144m, we’d all be dancing in the streets. But I’m also not sure it’s realistic.

Cameron is completely right when he takes into account that Kershaw isn’t yet a true free agent, so the Dodgers shouldn’t need to pay him for 2013 and 2014 like he is. While it’s popular to say that he’d be the first pitcher to break the $200m threshold, that’s only possible if he has two more excellent years and then hits the open market, free to negotiate with every team. That’s almost certainly not going to happen, so let’s keep those expectations in check.

Still, while Kershaw’s not going to get $200m, I’d be immensely surprised if he doesn’t at least surpass the 6/$147m that Zack Greinke just collected. After all, he’s younger, leftier, and simply better; it’s hard for me to see a scenario where he signs and isn’t the highest-paid pitcher on his own team, much less without potentially threatening records. Considering the influx of dollars into the sport over the last few years and the fact that he’d only be entering his age-27 season if he were to become a free agent, I think it’s not at all unfair to see Kershaw and his representatives look to challenge the 7/$161m that CC Sabathia inked with the Yankees prior to 2009.

Again, that deal was signed as a free agent, and Kershaw does not have the same bargaining power right now that Sabathia did on a completely open market, but you do have to wonder if four years of inflation plus the Dodgers becoming the financial behemoth that they are might make up the difference, or something close to it. Perhaps if you stick with the $11m that he’s getting this year, guarantee the $18m he’s likely to get in arbitration next year, and give him five years at $26m per season — allowing him to at least say he’s set a record for highest annual salary — you’d end up with 7/$159m, and that might sound about right.

Looking at it from another perspective, I actually think there’s a devil’s advocate argument to be made to not sign Kershaw this winter. Think about it this way – other than being a year closer to free agency, how much higher can his value really get? He’s coming off of two consecutive Cy Young-caliber seasons, and so there’s a limit to how much brighter his star can shine. But, don’t forget, he is coming off a hip injury that ruined his September and that – for a time – made us worry that ensuing surgery would keep him out well into 2013. While he did finish his year with an excellent string of starts and is reportedly feeling great heading into the spring, it’s hard to think that problem just cleared up and went away; I know I’d feel a lot more comfortable seeing him get a few months into the season without a recurrence before I bestow hundreds of millions of dollars upon him.

Talking about this kind of record-setting investment certainly makes the conversations we had two-and-a-half years ago about giving him 5/$30m seem quaint now, doesn’t it? From that piece, which makes me want to punch myself in the face right now: “But then he’ll be eligible for arbitration, and if he keeps on his current career path the yearly arbitration raises are going to get expensive and unpredictable. What if 2011 is his true breakout year, where he goes 21-6 with 212 K? We’ll be begging for the days when he might have been had for only $6m/year.” Lovely.

The funny thing is, I’m here throwing out numbers like “$159 million over seven years” without any thought about how the Dodgers might fit that into a budget, just because we don’t even know yet that they even have one. Again, I’m sure there’s a limit somewhere, but I really, really doubt that it’s going to be the young lefty ace on a Hall of Fame track that’s going to be where they draw the line; if it was, the Greinke money would likely have gone to Kershaw. Besides, people seem to forget that there really is a good amount of money coming off the books in the next few seasons; after 2013, you can say goodbye to $41.25m of Ted Lilly, Matt Guerrier, J.P. Howell, Skip Schumaker, Tony Gwynn, Mark Ellis, Juan Uribe, Jerry Hairston, & Nick Punto (assuming none are traded first). After 2014, nearly $32m of Hanley Ramirez & Josh Beckett goes away.

Either way, Kershaw is going to get paid, and soon. Seems the only questions are “when”, and “how much”; hopefully, we don’t have to worry about “by who?”

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AnotherBrian
AnotherBrian

You had to figure that, as far as the budget is concerned, the Dodgers would have a huge one this year because of the prior administration's mistakes in signing mediocre players to 3 or 4 year contracts. The new owners couldn't just let those contracts fall off while it builds the team, so the budget is high this year but falls off next year to a more reasonable number.

Catfacts
Catfacts

 @AnotherBrian Other than Juan Uribe and Guerrier there aren't really any 3+ year mistakes around. And I'd be surprised if those guys were still on the roster by the All-Star break.

IBBFTW
IBBFTW

@Scruffy @AnotherBrian NedCo doing a mass DFA would be WONDERFUL. Although I do not share this optimism yet.

AnotherBrian
AnotherBrian

 @Scruffy Maybe mistake is too harsh a word. But, they have several position players under these medium contracts and then have their star players for the same position with significantly larger contracts. You're going to have a larger budget for this year.

Catfacts
Catfacts

It would've been nice not to be a fetus the last time the Dodgers raised a trophy in the air. 

(VND)
(VND)

I keep telling myself im gonna sleep more. And it never happens. Damn. At least i'll be done by noon. I hope. I think sometimes im hypomanic.

Catfacts
Catfacts

I have a question for someone older than 25 or someone with a deep knowledge of recent Dodger history.

DeucesWild
DeucesWild

 @Scruffy Yo

Catfacts
Catfacts

The Dodgers let go of Valenzuela when he was fairly young. What was the thought process behind that? Looks like he was breaking down. He only pitched a few innings for the Angels the next year and then was out completely by the next but still pitched for big league clubs up until 1997. 

Catfacts
Catfacts

Was it murder seeing him in a Padres uni?

Catfacts
Catfacts

 @Wash Bucket Seemed to go on to have some decent years in the mid-nineties. Nothing like his early days, but the stats appear to suggest that he was at least serviceable. 

(VND)
(VND)

oh we're talkin about 'Nando? Mix of the screwball and Tommy's abuse. Elbow was shot

Mike Petriello
Mike Petriello moderator

 @Scruffy yeah, his arm was shot. He only made 2 starts over the next 2 seasons.

DeucesWild
DeucesWild

 @Scruffy I'm only 27, so I barely remember this. I think that the workload he was given along with injuries made him expendable. He had a great cheap start, but faded with the amount of innings he was made to pitch. It seems they knew they over worked him and just let him go

EephusBlue
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This woulda been crazy funny if the movie were this

http://i.imgur.com/SCZR1.gif

LA_Woman
LA_Woman

I don't remember who was asking about animation and if he lived in LA, but both the Egyptian & the Aero will be showing Ghibli Studio movies Jan. 25 through Feb. 10. There is nothing like seeing them on the big screen!

http://www.americancinemathequecalendar.com/content/the-castle-returns-miyazaki-takahata-and-the-masters-of-studio-ghibli-2013

Lobo
Lobo

 @LA_Woman It was me and I do live in LA but unfortunately I'm at school in Alabama right now.  Sucks that I'm going to miss this, I'd love to see just about any of those movies in theaters.  Princess Mononoke, Whisper of the Heart, Kiki's Delivery Service, and Castle in the Sky are some of my absolute favorite movies period.  Don't quite understand why they apparently aren't showing Spirited Away considering it's Ghibli's most successful movie in the west.  Oh and Pom Poko doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same stratosphere as those other films, it's legitimately a terrible film.

Lobo
Lobo

 @LA_Woman Wait, apparently they are screening Spirited Away, but in a double feature with Pom Poko.  Why in the holy hell would you pair up Miyazaki's absolute masterpiece with Takahata's tonally confused and childish piece of trash?

LA_Woman
LA_Woman

 @Lobo Now that I know about them, I'll keep my ears open. I've got some completist geeky friends, so I'll ask around.

Lobo
Lobo

 @LA_Woman Yeah, I know one or two people who claim that Only Yesterday is the best Ghibli film.  I doubt it will compare with any of Miyazaki's better works (I'm not a particularly big Takahata fan, his films just feel clumsy and pedestrian to me though Grave of the Fireflies is quite good).  It looks like the only way I'll be able to watch them though is to buy them but even then there's the problem of the DVD region.  If you didn't know already, DVD's are assigned a region code based on where they're sold and only DVD players that also have that same region code can play them.  Unfortunately, Japan and Europe are in the same region (region 2 I believe) while the US is in a different one (region 1) so I'd either have to buy a regionless DVD player (which I know exist but don't know where to get one) or find someone who happens to have a region 2 player.  The only other possible solution is to buy the bluray versions (the bluray regions are different, Japan and the US are in the same region for bluray) but I don't have a bluray player to watch them with.

LA_Woman
LA_Woman

 @Lobo No, I've not seen those two. I meant that I've seen all of the other films on American Cinemateque's program. (Just looked them up -- they sound really interesting and unusual.)

Lobo
Lobo

 @LA_Woman I mean, see it for completion's sake but don't expect much.  Whisper of the Heart on the other hand is absolutely wonderful, it's truly tragic that the man who directed it, Yoshifumi Kondo longtime protoge of Miyazaki, passed away due to an aneurysm just a few years after making it, he showed such promise.  Out of curiosity, when you say you've seen all but those two, does that include Only Yesterday and Ocean Waves?  They're the only two Ghibli films that have never been released in the US and also the only two I haven't seen and I'm having a devil of a time trying to get a copy of them to watch.  If you have seen them, where did you get them?

LA_Woman
LA_Woman

 @Lobo Oh, well, that's good to know. Pom Poko and Whisper of the Heart are the only ones I haven't seen. I guess I'll pass on Pom Poko if you consider it such trash.