Don Mattingly To Return, Like You Didn’t Know That

mattingly_ump_2013-07-14I guess I’ll put this here because it’s newsworthy and because the less we think about being down 3-1 in the NLCS the better, but honestly, this isn’t a topic I like focusing on all that much the night before an elimination playoff game. Anyway, Jon Heyman, hit me:

The Dodgers intend to bring Don Mattingly back to manage the team next year, people familiar with the situation say.

Ken Gurnick confirms this as well. I think that we all pretty much figured that, though again there’s nothing that has been announced by the team here. Had the Dodgers lost badly in the NLDS, I think a change may have been made, but it’s pretty difficult to fire a manager who A) just won the division by 11 games B) presided over one of the best in-season runs in baseball history C) is likely to get some Manager of the Year votes and D) won a playoff series.

Again, we have all winter to argue about this, especially once the news is official, but you all know where I stand on this point. I consider Mattingly to be a very good clubhouse manager — no, I don’t put much stock into Bob Nightengale’s report about players “complaining about his managerial ability” — and a pretty lousy in-game tactician. I thought that before the playoffs, and he’s just been so atrocious so far (the Jason Heyward / Reed Johnson thing, the Juan Uribe sacrifice bunt attempt, Game 1 usage of Kenley Jansen, pretty much everything involving Michael Young) that he’s somehow dropped even further in my eyes there.

And so my position remains consistent: there’s absolutely room to improve at the position, and if there was ever a possibility of firing him to get someone better, then so be it. (Manny Acta!) But everyone’s definition of “better” is different, because I think we all know by now that 90% of managers would pull 90% of the same foolishness that he does, and if the alternative is bringing in former Dodger player, ex-Giant manager, “proven winner” Dusty Baker, as I’ve been terrified of ever since Cincinnati let him go, then yeah — absolutely hang on to Mattingly, please.

Anyway, the end result here is the same as it always is, which is managers matter so much less than people think they do; if Hanley Ramirez or Matt Kemp or Andre Ethier were actually healthy and if anyone else could hit the St. Louis pitching, we might not be feeling so badly about Mattingly as we do right now. As it is, this news shouldn’t distract from what’s important, and that’s beating St. Louis in Game 5 tomorrow to send the series back to Missouri and simply stay alive.

253 comments
West Coast Ram
West Coast Ram

I don't mind Mattingly coming back but I'd like the Dodgers to make a change with their bench coach.  Hillman was a terrible manager when he had his chance and is in the same mold as Mattingly.  Someone with more knowledge with advanced stats would be nice on this staff.

Technogit
Technogit

Nightengale's report about players grumbling probably was based on AJ's antics on ESPN, which hardly seemed like much grumbling to me. Would any Dodgers talk to Nightengale about this? I don't think so!

BlueBayou
BlueBayou

Carlos Beltran is a different kinda moron...

Gilbert_Vengeance
Gilbert_Vengeance

Carlos Beltran on STL's deja vu, 3-1 series lead: "The Dodgers are not the Giants. I believe they play a different type of ballgame." 

I sincerely hate that man.

BlueMarvin
BlueMarvin

It would be nice to have a brilliant manager in terms of the tactical side of baseball.  But I also think it DOES matter if a manager is liked by his players, and if a manager has that competitive fire.  Donnie has the likability factor, and he definitely wants to win.  So replacing him with a better tactical manager COULD backfire if we ended up with a manager the players hate.  I'm as miffed as everyone else at the bunting, the Dee for Gonzo switch especially, but I'm not upset by Don staying another year, I'm really not.  We need to focus on 2B, maybe 3B, another starter and the bench.

Alan Nordoc
Alan Nordoc

Dusty was definitely trolling for a job on Monday. Shaking hands and kissing babies. But he also couldn't keep his hands off the PR girl. Creepy. 

capnsparrow
capnsparrow

this is one of them days where we fight not to win but to survive! So man them guns and make double true yer deflection and elevation!

Disgruntled Goat
Disgruntled Goat moderator

the extra d is for the double dose of crappy news. 

Coffee Head
Coffee Head

Listening to vin on a walkman from work instead of DVRing, fuck it

BluESQ
BluESQ

Does anyone know if AM570 can be streamed from your computer???

DavidGriffBecerra
DavidGriffBecerra

Positivity boners all day folks. Today isn't the last day of the season for us.

Coffee Head
Coffee Head

mattingly returning, now I feel better

Dang88
Dang88

...........fuck. Ok ok ok

DBrim
DBrim moderator

Sigh.

MSTI>Dodgers Digest
MSTI>Dodgers Digest

We've got the Cards right where we want them: overconfident.


They have no idea what's about to hit them.

DeucesWild
DeucesWild

Alright, I'm out. None of my posts were deleted because of the spam filer, so I live to post another day. If I don't make it back from errands before the game starts, Go blue!

(not Michigan, fuck them)

TheReggieHurley
TheReggieHurley

hey guys i have a scenario for u. This happened 2 years ago and it has been bugging me for a long time because it involves my best friend. In college i had a two bedroom apartment with 3 other friends. So it was two people to a room. We also got 2 parking spaces. Out of the 4 of us, 3 of us wanted parking spots. The last guy wanted a parking spot but gave up his spot and also didn't want to charge us so he just said watevs work it out among yourselves. My question is: is the person who is roommates with the guy who gave up his spot have rights to one spot automatically while the other two work it out for the remaining spot? 

SteveLyonsFan
SteveLyonsFan

I'm convinced, you have to processes the IQ of a retarded monkey to be the manager of a MLB team.

DeucesWild
DeucesWild

Seinfeld is on this late?? Yes please

BlueMarvin
BlueMarvin

@HanleyBot (Gilbert) What I've been saying.  He's the only think about the STL team that I can honestly say that I truly hate.  Hated him long before he was a Card though.

BlueBayou
BlueBayou

@BlueMarvin I really think Mattingly wants to win as well. Having a manager that is both liked by his players as well as having good baseball tactics can be hard to find.  Hopefully Donnie learns some tactics from this series.  I still think the Dodgers win this series, but only if the offense wakes up.  Once Hanley was hurt it put us in a tail spin.  

Lobo
Lobo

@Mike Petriello That's some cherry picking there to find someplace that calls that call in the 85 series the worst of all time.  That article is from 2001

BlueMarvin
BlueMarvin

@Mike Petriello I do try to hate the Cards, and it IS kind of hard to do it.  Especially since the main reason to hate them is, they win, and that's not really HATRED is it, it's just plain ole' jealousy.  :(

DBrim
DBrim moderator

Ddonnie?

Alan Nordoc
Alan Nordoc

@BluESQ The MLB App for your phone is only 3.99 and you can stream from there. I bought it for today...

Dang88
Dang88

@BluESQ Yes through I heart radio but not the playoff games

The PoopUp
The PoopUp

@TheReggieHurley I was in a similar situation in college, but with 5 instead of 4 (one of the rooms was a master bedroom, which, welp, turned into a triple). I ended up being the "whatevs" guy, and another chap didn't have a car, so it ended up being two spots between three folks. Unfortunately, I can't quite remember how they resolved that (I think the two guys with spots paid some percentage more of the rent), but I don't think Guy In Room #2 should automatically be granted a parking spot. Something should be hammered out, a la winter baseball meetings. 

West Coast Ram
West Coast Ram

@BlueMarvin @Mike Petriello Read the comment section of the Post Dispatch and you will have no problem hating most of the Cardinal fan base.  You talk about fair weather fans, your not going to find a better definition.  After a brief losing streak they are willing to ship every player and coach out of town.  Missouri is no better than the deep south for blatant racism.  

Disgruntled Goat
Disgruntled Goat moderator

@DBrim sigh, sorry. it's a line from a movie. but whatever. unsarcastic goat won't have any problem being serious today with the loss and the news about mattingly. 

BluESQ
BluESQ

I can't believe I might miss what might be the last game of the season.... Positivity boner enabled!