Those Matt Kemp Rumors Aren’t Going Away

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So the Mariners maybe want Matt Kempif rumors are to be believed. Or the Red Sox. Or the Rangers. Or maybe none of this is news at all because we heard about this nearly a month ago, if not longer, and will continue to do so until someone is moved. But until then, every time a local columnist tweets something completely unsourced about a potential move, it will send Dodger fans into a fury, torn between “cool, I wonder what we can get?” and “noooo, not my Kemp!”

For the record, I don’t want to trade Kemp, because when he’s healthy, he’s arguably a top five player in the game. Those aren’t all that easy to find, obviously. But you always listen, no matter who it’s about, because you never know when it’s Detroit calling to ask if you’d like Doug Fister in exchange for three misshapen pennies. If a team comes up with the right deal for Kemp, then you trade him. Simple as that, as long as the value is right. I happen to believe that such a trade is difficult if not impossible to find, unless the Mariners whiff on Robinson Cano and David Price and decide that they absolutely positively have to do something, even when something is the kind of thing that makes Seattle fans lose sleep at night.

So maybe Kemp does get moved, and maybe the Dodgers don’t want to pay Clayton Kershaw until they know what they’ll be spending on the outfield, and maybe we’re all speculating with only the tiniest clue of what’s really going on internally. I still happen to believe that Andre Ethier is the more likely outfielder to get moved, if only because his lower cost makes it easier for the Dodgers to eat enough to get other teams in the game, and it’s not all that hard to see fits with the Mets, Pirates, Royals, Red Sox, Rangers, Tigers, etc. 

But let’s do the blogging blog bloggy thing and spitball something that will never actually happen and isn’t real, but is fun to consider anyway: the Padres.

Hear me out on this one. No, the Padres don’t need more outfielders, not after adding Seth Smith to Will Venable and Chris Denorfia and Carlos Quentin and Cameron Maybin and Reymond Fuentes, and they especially don’t want guys as expensive as this. But what they do have is the thing that no one else on this list does, and that’s a third baseman who would be a great fit for the Dodgers in Chase Headley.

Well, so what, right? The teams rarely trade with one another. But that’s why the gods created three-ways — shush, children — so think about this. Let’s say the Dodgers eat a considerable amount of Ethier’s deal, making him a 4/40 player or something similar, and can move him for two good (but not elite) prospects. Maybe that’s Rafael Montero and Jacob deGrom from the Mets, or Allen Webster (hi!) and Mookie Betts from the Red Sox, or more likely none of those guys, because I’m just throwing darts at the wall here.

Sure, the Dodgers could just keep those guys and add them to the farm system. But maybe they could also take them and combine them with some non-Joc Pederson Dodger prospects like Chris Reed and Onelki Garcia to give the Padres a nice four-player package in return. Or if San Diego insists on Zach Lee, well, that’s fine, but maybe then you ask for them to toss in a Nick Vincent or someone for the bullpen too.

Likely? No, of course not. But it’s the week leading up to the winter meetings. Nothing is likely, and everything is.

781 comments
DodgerBytes
DodgerBytes

Is it true that Seattle's panic move was likely turned down by a player who wants to win?

DBrim
DBrim moderator

With posting fee capped, I'm guessing at least 10 teams post the cap and that might be light.

DodgerBytes
DodgerBytes

Trading Kemp for a few prospects and salary relief = UNACCEPTABLE

Trading Kemp for prospects to use towards a trade to upgrade our infield = ACCEPTABLE

Giants Suck
Giants Suck

I see a trade with Seattle to bring Kyle Seager more probable than a trade with San Diego for Headley.

ThomasForesta
ThomasForesta

When do ever remember him not being accurate when throwing from the outfield. Never it is okay I bleed Dodger Blue and was raised sitting listening to Vin Scully. We have Owners know how to win and Braves of 90's we are on our way with a ton money also. 29 teams wish they had the luxuries we have, so quit whining and enjoy your the Yankee's of the West. When we a Championship and we will, who will care about how they got it done, as long as if they got it done!!!!!

It has been fun.

ThomasForesta
ThomasForesta

Matt Kemp swing was either of an injured man his mechanics was off everywhere (feet, hip, eye level, and elbow or his bat being to high. That leads to no balance, high strike outs, and grounding out all the time. 

ThomasForesta
ThomasForesta

I am reading but none of you are want to really talk about Joc Pederson who is ready to be our CF and cheap, healthy, and young. Do you guys/gals have a short memory of Puig and the energy that he brought an organization. Injuries and losses bring dis-spare and heartache even to the best of teams.   

DBrim
DBrim moderator

My understanding is that "panic move" was including Walker in a trade for Price.

steelmohawk
steelmohawk

I will only be upsst if Maddox isn't unanimous. Though people like the attention contrary votes receive

DBrim
DBrim moderator

I barely care if he gets in now. I just want the talk to go away.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

Hi.

capnsparrow
capnsparrow

@Giants Suck Headly sucks the pahdrees would love to dump him. He's the Brandon League of 3rd basemen

DBrim
DBrim moderator

Strongly disagree. Seager is Seattle's best position player. I can't see them trading him.

steelmohawk
steelmohawk

who is whining?  So if you are for trading Kemp to bring Joc up, does that mean you would be for trading Grienke to bring Lee up, he is closer to being ready than Joc is, according to people whose articles you read about prospects.

Professor Towel
Professor Towel

@ThomasForesta does that also lead to hitting 319/.388/.556 from June - September?

(granted, only 22 games, but still...)

InsideThePark (Ethier, Kemp, Puig)
InsideThePark (Ethier, Kemp, Puig)

An everyday outfield of a Rookie in CF and a second year player who doesn't heed to veterans calling him off is a terrifying prospect.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

This seems possible, too.

Mike Petriello
Mike Petriello moderator

@steelmohawk there's no chance he'll be 100%. But that's partially because of stupid 10 player limit. Some guys will want to include him but won't, figuring their vote for another player will be more valuable since Maddux gets in anyway.

Giants Suck
Giants Suck

Pretty sure the Seattle fans would get over it if they got Kemp in return.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

Can't scout the stat line.

DodgerBytes
DodgerBytes

@DKDodgers I'd deal walker for Price. Z.Lee too...but that's because we'd be able to extend him.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

Yeah, but "Walker for Price" is up there with "Myers for Shields"

DBrim
DBrim moderator

This is false. All teams that post the cap are eligible to negotiate with the player.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

Nah, the light's broken and they need to fix the wiring.

steelmohawk
steelmohawk

they're going to put a camera right above your desk

DBrim
DBrim moderator

They're cutting a hole in the ceiling above my desk so I can't work right now.

DodgerBytes
DodgerBytes

@DBrim They want to see Beltran until 40? Yuk. However, I do think that's the panic move, giving Beltran more yrs/money to give up shot at championship.

DBrim
DBrim moderator

Why would they do that when there's still good free agents out there? Neither Choo nor Beltran have the ceiling of Kemp, but they've both been better in the recent past and don't cost them their best position player.