With about .00001 percent of the publicity and controversy surrounding the regular Hall of Fame balloting, the Veterans Committee elected three new members this morning, enshrining managers Bobby Cox, Tony LaRussa, and Joe Torre (all unanimously). I was never really Torre’s biggest fan as a Dodger manager — and I can show that with consistency, from before he arrived until the day he left — but it’s pretty hard to argue with his credentials. Yes, I’m talking about the rings that Derek Jeter and friends gave him in New York, but also the 18-year playing career that included eight All-Star appearances and the 1971 NL MVP award. If anything, I’m surprised he wasn’t included sooner than this.
Fully agree that Marvin Miller should be in there, as of about 1987. It's absolutely wrong that that miserable idiot Bowie Kuhn, whose lunch Miller regularly ate as an appetizer, got in for any reason at any time, but particularly that he got in before Miller.
And I'm disgusted with the players on the current Veteran's Committee who wouldn't be as wealthy as they are had they not been led by Miller.
For those of you interested in trading for Will Middlebrooks, I present incontrovertible proof that doing so would be a terrible idea: https://twitter.com/middlebrooks/status/410141609314234368
Sorry Jobu, got busy at work and didn't respond. You mentioned about Kemp:
"All turns on the ? mark. Is Kemp back to his old self or are these injuries the beginning of a long decline. Hence where all the ? marks of whether to trade or hold him on the chance he rebuilds value and we can get a really really good prospect return in a season or two"
I see no sign whatsoever that Kemp is in decline. None. As for injuries, all players get injured, and many that get injured will heal too. Remember Werth? Any player we can get back can get injured too. Unless there is reason to believe Kemp is gonna stay injured, then injuries aren't an issue. The only thing with Kemp that could be a concern that I've seen is the hammy, and that's more nagging than anything else.
If Kemp rebuilds his "value" as you say, the Dodgers won't be looking to trade him. And I think it's more likely he does than doesn't so why lose him now?
Trading kemp is all about what we get in return. If we get really good players losing I won't be very sad about losing kemp
@Lobo final? which one?
@paul_of_the_lights i think there's a good chance he goes someplace. just not the dodgers.
@SpaceDodger (math cat) big ones
I'd be sad about losing Kemp regardless of the return...getting really good players back (cost controlled even) will simply soften the blow, and in a few years I might get over being sad.
The fact that Mike things Seager is out of the question for Kemp -- and I trust Mike's analysis there, even if I think the baseball world is nuts sometimes -- means Kemp won't bring back proper value.
Mike, Bill Price has been retired from Major League baseball for 123 years. I mean, yeah, that probably still makes him more valuable than Dee Gordon, but it's just a silly idea. PTTBMMWCOYOS.
@Mike Petriello Whos gonna backup AJ Ellis Mike?
@Mike Petriello this wasn't serious, right? There's no way that would happen.
@Mike Petriello hahahahahahahaha
@^<<**(vẻ đẹp)**>>^ he's as good as that guy jake likes on that show about the comic nerds
@BlueMarvin yes you can think they won't get good return. No one thought James shield would return will myers but it did I am just saying that I will judge a trade by the return not just call it terrible in any circumstance
if Matt Kemp's ceiling is where he was i '11, they won't get a good return on him. But, I don't even think they will get a good return on him, if his value is just an above average bat.
@^<<**(vẻ đẹp)**>>^ thass gonna be creepy cus in order to see the tv you will need to be in my backyard.
the fact that they just sit and utter basic medical terminology and people think it makes them smart or a joke funny annoys the shit out of my
@^<<**(vẻ đẹp)**>>^ better to tap on the window and yell "hey" then point at the TV and say "No. Bad! Bad"
That show wins all kinds of awards. People who are paid to know whether or not TV is good LOVE it (including Jon Weisman). I just don't get it.
TBBT is the worst thing ever. i was walking my dog and saw a family watching it through their living room window (yeah i looked) and i wanted to ring the doorbell and chastise the father /cool story dang
@^<<**(vẻ đẹp)**>>^ *medium sized
Yes, it's true, you did. I don't pretend to get WHY this is the case, but, I am resigned to believe it now, enough smart people have said it.