2013 Dodgers in Review #36: RP Matt Guerrier

90topps_mattguerrier4.80 ERA / 4.25 FIP  11.1 IP 6.35 K/9 2.38 BB/9 -0/2 WAR (w/LA) (D)

2013 in brief: Got into 34 thoroughly mediocre games before being DFA’d and shipped off to Chicago for Carlos Marmol, which should tell you all you need to know.

2014 status: Free agent.

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You’ll probably remember that when Matt Guerrier signed his three-year deal following the 2010 season, we really, really hated it. You’ll remember that because I’ve referred to it so often that I don’t even need to go find the link for you again, and it basically boiled down to the fact that multi-year deals for non-elite relievers almost never, ever, ever work.

So now that we’re finally free of Guerrier, who missed most of the second year with arm trouble and barely made it through half of the third year, what did that $12 million buy? 110 innings, a 4.24 ERA, and a whole lot of frustration.

I suppose the most you can say for Guerrier this year is that he was mostly anonymous, which is probably what you want from a middle reliever; the more you hear about them, the worse it’s likely to be. In fact, the only time all season I really dedicated a post to him was in late April:

Mattingly immediately came out to replace Rodriguez with Matt Guerrier, and here’s where the problems began. Rodriguez isn’t your typical LOOGY; he’s effective against hitters from either side of the plate. Guerrier, on the other hand… is Matt Guerrier. He’s the guy we’ve been complaining about since the day he was signed. Noreally.

So of course, Guerrier goes out and gives up a two-run blast to Carlos Gomez, giving Milwaukee a 4-2 lead. That was only compounded when Guerrier returned in the eighth and gave up another two-run dinger, this time to Martin Maldonado — and neither was ever in question, because they were crushed. I’ll give Mattingly some amount of understanding for having Guerrier back out in the eighth, because with Ronald Belisario & Brandon League both unavailable and Kenley Jansen serving as the evening’s fill-in closer, his usual eighth inning options were gone. But having him out there in the first place in a close game was a sizable mistake, one that ultimately cost the Dodgers the game.

The funny thing, I suppose, is that Guerrier’s Dodger career ended with six consecutive scoreless outings, striking out five in four innings. But even so, when he was DFA’d in favor of Chris Withrow, it was met with near-universal acclaim, since Withrow was immediately an improvement. That’s probably unfair to Guerrier, but then again, he never did much to make the contract look any better than the mistake it seemed to be on the day it was signed, either.

Guerrier ended up getting traded to the Cubs for Carlos Marmol, who didn’t matter, and $209,700 in international signing cap room, which does. After going to Chicago, he made it into 15 games (before getting hurt and requiring flexor tendon surgery in August) and pitched almost exactly the same, just without homers, and so a shiny 2.13 ERA looks like it’s going to sucker in some other team next year.

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Next! I’m not even sure yet! Another reliever, probably!

1726 comments
LA_Woman
LA_Woman

OMG. VND mentioned this article about Tanaka, and... I mean, I wanted him on our team before, but now I'm kinda to the point of Jobu obsession. "His control has been compared to that of Greg Maddux, his fastball to that of Roger Clemens and his split-finger to that of Koji Uehara. As for his stamina, try Grover Cleveland Alexander."

And he's a charismatic rock star.

WANT.

Also this article makes a good point: If the Rakuten Eagles don't take the posting fee and allow him to come to MLB, then they'll get nothing for him when he leaves in two years.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10154435/mlb-japanese-pitcher-masahiro-tanaka-worth-fuss?src=mobile

*VND*
*VND*

Pretty great and long article about Tanaka over at ESPN dot com

*VND*
*VND*

did no one else here appreciate Ugly Americans on Comedy Central? Was I really the only one?

BIah
BIah

@Lobo what's the best items on the menu at Chic-fil-a?  Went to one for the first time today and just got the deluxe chicken sandwich which was good, but wondering if maybe some of the other more obscure items are good as well

Disgruntled Goat
Disgruntled Goat moderator

@TellMyWifeISaidHello Serious Goat today though, so i must point out that though my comments to mike preceded this post, he would have posted it regardless. 

DBrim
DBrim moderator

@LA_Woman The thing I've heard most is a younger, slightly better Kuroda. Sign me up.

DINGERS!
DINGERS!

I liked their waffle fries and cole slaw for a long time. I even had their spicy chicken.

But, if I want fried chicken now, I'd sooner get Japanese chicken Katsu. They slice the fried chicken patty and give you gravy to slather over it!

ABSmileBunch
ABSmileBunch

@BIah @Lobo I like the chicken nuggets, essentially the same chicken as on the sandwich (not bleached and pureed like other nuggets)...the side of homophobia is sometimes difficult, but they're clean and they have a (clean) play area for my kids so we end up stopping there when we travel (which we'll be doing tomorrow).

Lobo
Lobo

@BIah @Lobo Honestly, I always just get the standard chicken sandwich.  Just chicken, two pickles, and a bun.  Simple but awesome.  Unless they're still serving breakfast, in that case always go for the chicken biscuit

*VND*
*VND*

Chi yeu oi, im on mobile :(

BIah
BIah

@efb I understand the sentiment, but I also know a lot of corporations have leadership that donates to organizations I may not like, and that it'd be complicated and convoluted to evaluate each and every place I spend my money.

I don't see it as that big of a deal because in big corporations the money gets split up so many ways anyway.  The franchise owners, employees, and suppliers all have their money feeds and salaries that they'll be doing what they please with.  The money that Chick-fil-a donated to controversial organizations amounts to about 1/100th of a percent of their profits.

I understand if others want to boycott places like Chick-fil-a to make a statement but I don't really consider it an issue to me personally because I don't think it makes much of a difference at a practical level

*VND*
*VND*

@efb @BIah @Lobo should add Dunkin Donuts to that list if we are really doing this right

Lobo
Lobo

@BIah Also, why exactly are you driving cross-country with you dad?

DBrim
DBrim moderator

Which was good because it prevented me from sounding like an idiot.

*VND*
*VND*

Must sleep now. Night! <3

LA_Woman
LA_Woman

@The Notorious VNDYes! It works. And he didn't show up anywhere on my ESPN/MLB screen, or when I googled. Stoopid internet.

*VND*
*VND*

Lemme know if it works - the link

*VND*
*VND*

Lemme link - but its gonna be mobile beware

*VND*
*VND*

Espn dot com backslash mlb. I think its the second story

BIah
BIah

@Catfishin Amarillo.  the northern part that sticks up like a rectangle

capnsparrow
capnsparrow

@BIah @The Notorious VND @LA_Woman Jesus fuckin christ Blah stop sweating what other people think and think for yourself. If shit seems wrong it prolly is and if shit seems right it prolly is but other people will always look to do your thinking for you. Thats how people are. Just be yourself and don't sweat it

BIah
BIah

@The Notorious VND I understand that.

I know if a leader of a company made remarks I considered hateful of a part of me I strongly identified with, that it would discourage me from wanting to support them, in any small way.

But at the same time, if I'm being honest with myself, I don't really know, because that's not something I really have to deal with, and those experiences are hard to truly empathize with unless you've actually had to live them...

I think I get a little of that perspective at least in internet land...people like my parents and extended family are vilified in most of the political/social arenas of debate.  I know it's not anywhere near to the day-in day-out discrimination many people have to endure without choice, but it is something to grapple with...even if I have reservations about my family's beliefs, they are still my family, I love them in many ways.  they were the source of all my initial knowledge about the world when I was young and when society tells me that they're dead wrong on many really important things it's...saddening.  If I make definite public decisions about my views in either direction, I'm letting down a sphere of people in my life that mean a lot to me.

So I know I have inadequate knowledge on a lot of things and I'm sorry if what I said rubbed you the wrong way. I am trying to constantly learn the best way to approach these issues because I know they affect everyone for better or for worse.  @LA_Woman if you think I'm dead wrong on the issue I said above, please tell me why...if not on MSTI through Twitter DMs or some other medium so that maybe I get more perspective

*VND*
*VND*

@BIah @efb i think you need to understand the perspective of: if you become the one attacked and feel vulnerable. which honestly may be hard for caucasian males of christian decent in the US. and thats not a knock on you, just.. perspective is sometimes really hard

LA_Woman
LA_Woman

@BIah@efb Totally disagree, but we're getting into "politics" territory, so I'll keep quiet.

Lobo
Lobo

@BIah @efb AND the CEO of Chick-fil-A has done a phenomenal job of reaching out to the LGBT and engaging them in dialogue about the issue rather than just spouting out nonsense or something.  There was a really fantastic article about it that I read a few months ago, I'll try to dig it up

DINGERS!
DINGERS!

It IS. Chicken Katsu is bomb Dot Com LOL

Lobo
Lobo

@BIah @Lobo That's cool.  It's nice having family at school

BIah
BIah

@Lobo @BIah Yeah, still going to school there.  my sister will be joining me next year as well

Lobo
Lobo

@BIah @Lobo That sucks.  You're still staying there for school though, right?

BIah
BIah

@Lobo moving back to CA.  Ohio didn't work out for the family

...it's complicated

efb
efb

@BIah @Lobo it's winter break why are you moving so much shit? 

Lobo
Lobo

@BIah @Lobo Why?  I thought you guys were all moved to Ohio?

BIah
BIah

@Lobo @BIah hauling a bunch of stuff from Ohio to California in a U-haul