Nothing But Bad News From the Brawl That Injured Zack Greinke

greinke_injured_sandiego_2013-04-12It’s kind of a running joke in the Dodger online community that whenever anything newsworthy or exciting happens, Hawaii-based Chad Moriyama will inevitably be asleep during it, then wake up six hours later to find out that James McDonald was traded for Octavio Dotel, or whatever horror it happened to be.

Last night, punished by work, I went to bed early in what looked like a routine 2-0 Dodger game. When I woke up, it was to an apologetic email from one of my groomsmen and about 30 tweets that looked roughly like this:

And so here I sit on a rainy morning, apoplectic that I missed Juan Uribe‘s pinch-hit go-ahead homer, giving him the team lead with two. Or the fact that Hanley Ramirez tweeted my GIF of his dugout celebration from the other night. That is all I missed, right?

Sadly, it’s much more than that, and I feel like I don’t need to give anyone the play-by-play of the brawl that ended with Zack Greinke fracturing his left collarbone, because I’m sure you’ve all seen it dozens of times by now. Carlos Quentin alluded to past history between he and Greinke, but the idea that Greinke is really throwing at a guy on a full count in a one-run game is so insane that it’s barely even worth considering. If anything, I might have preferred Greinke not driving his shoulder into the angry 240-pound man running full speed at him, but that’s that’s obviously said with the benefit of video replay, hardly something you can expect in the heat of the moment. Adding insult to incredibly serious injury, Vin Scully had noted earlier in the game that Greinke’s wife and family were in the stands for the game. (By the way, suggestions I’m already seeing that A.J. Ellis or Adrian Gonzalez were somehow at fault for not getting there quickly enough to stop Quentin: no. Stop. Just stop.)

Obviously, Quentin is public enemy #1 in Los Angeles — and not the good, Clayton Kershaw curveball kind — and I know many people are getting a kick out of Matt Kemp barking at him in the tunnel after the game. But as Dodger fans, we’re of course incredibly biased. That being the case, it’s nice to see that fans of other teams are all piling on Quentin this morning. Not, unfortunately, in the way that a half-billion dollars of baseball player piled on Grienke, however.

Even Padres blog Gaslamp Ball can barely spin this in a San Diego way:

If you think that a single pitcher hitting a single batter three times over the course of their careers is excessive (or you’re a Padres fan), then maybe you’re on Carlos Quentin‘s side.

If you’re the kind of person that figures it’s a 3-2 count in a 2-1 game and maybe it’s not necessarily the opportune time to hit a batter because you don’t like him then you’re probably figuring Zack Greinke is out for a really ridiculous reason and that reason is an angry Carlos Quentin.

So what now? Greinke returned to Los Angeles rather than going on with the team to Arizona, where we’ll find out if this is an injury that’s going to be measured in weeks or months. We’ll now get to have the ever-so-fun “Ted Lilly or Chris Capuano?” conversation. And in three days, the Padres come to Los Angeles on Jackie Robinson Day, potentially with Quentin in the lineup if he appeals the suspension that’s inevitably coming. The official Dodger account, anyway, is ready, even if I’m not sure I am.

 

Dodgers 3, Pirates 0: Smiles All Around

matt_kemp_happySometimes, when you want to get healthy & happy, all you need is Jonathan Sanchez and the Pittsburgh Pirates to come to town. Sorry, Pittsburgh fans. It’s true. The Dodgers have beaten them 17 of 21, after all.

Really, that could have scarcely gone better. There was Matt Kemp, breaking his hitless streak with an RBI double in the sixth, generating the reaction you see above. There was Andre Ethier, putting the first run on the board not only with a homer, but with a homer off a lefty. There was Justin Sellers, redeeming himself from the other night with an outstanding defensive play. There was the bullpen, contributing 2.1 hitless innings of relief from Paco Rodriguez, Kenley Jansen, & Brandon League. There was A.J. Ellis‘ third double of the year (in addition to him gunning down Andrew McCutchen attempting to steal), and Adrian Gonzalez‘ first, a seventh-inning drive that pushed Kemp across with the third run of the game.

But most of all, there was Zack Greinke, throwing six and a third perfect innings in his Dodger debut before allowing a hit to McCutchen. Lest you be eager to point out a potential mistake and note that Garrett Jones actually had a single in the second inning, let me remind you how that play actually went down…

…and so I stand by my statement. Greinke went 92 pitches, striking out six, in what was known to be an outing where he’d have a bit of a leash on him after his abbreviated spring. Looking at it through that lens, perhaps the Mark Ellis play above was something of a blessing, since it removed any possible pressure on Don Mattingly to keep him in longer than necessary.

Oh, and it gets better, friends: after dealing with Greinke tonight, the Pirates have to face Clayton Kershaw tomorrow evening. In 15.2 innings this year, the ace duo has allowed just six hits, zero walks, and zero runs. That just isn’t right… but it sure is fun.

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News from down on the farm tonight: Yasiel Puig, playing right field, made his debut for Double-A Chattanooga a successful one, going 2-3 with a run, a stolen base, and — wait for it — a walk! Zach Lee struck out five in four innings, allowing one earned run.

Ted Lilly made a “rehab” start for High-A Rancho Cucamonga, and… oh.

 

Zack Greinke Makes the Final Game of Spring Actually Meaningful

angelstadiumThe final game of an endlessly long spring training usually doesn’t mean a whole lot more than just “please, no one get hurt,” and for the most part, tonight’s Freeway Series finale falls under that category. But for Zack Greinke and the Dodgers, there’s at least a little intrigue to it, because Greinke needs to prove he’s ready to start the season with the team rather than on the disabled list.

As we discussed last week, it didn’t matter so much that he looked terrible against the Royals, because it was his first outing after weeks on the shelf. Against another of his former teams, it matters a little more, because he’s simply out of time. Either Greinke shows he’s ready, or the Dodgers have to make a tough decision about whether to start him on the shelf while he gets stretched out. We might see Chris Capuano & Aaron Harang after Greinke tonight, and that’ll be fun because they’re the two men who have their fates tied most closely to how Greinke performs. Again though, I do expect Greinke to start next Friday against Pittsburgh unless tonight goes really, really poorly.

Dodgers
Angels
LF
Crawford
LF
Trout
2B
M.Ellis
SS
Aybar
CF
Kemp
1B
Pujols
1B
Gonzalez
DH
Hamilton
RF
Ethier
LF
Trumbo
3B
Cruz
2B
Kendrick
C
Federowicz
3B
Callaspo
SS
Sellers
C
Ianetta
P
Greinke
P
Bourjos

You’ll also notice that Justin Sellers is once again starting at shortstop tonight, further evidence that he really is in consideration to take that job to start the season. Talk about one of the more improbable twists of the spring; for a reference point, 166 people entered the Brooklyn Dodger hat Opening Day roster contest. Only four had Sellers on their lists, fewer people than had Ramon Castro, Scott Elbert, Yasiel Puig, Mark Lowe, or Nick Evans.

There’s no Dodger broadcast of tonight’s game, but the Angels will have it on Fox Sports. However, it’ll be delayed until after the Kings vs. Wild game is over, which starts an hour before first pitch; if you want to check it out live, it’ll be a free MLB.tv broadcast there. (And for all the jokes about MLB.tv failing miserably last night, I believe the problem was more on the end of all the new gadgets in Dodger Stadium than anything.)

It’s possible that the team announces some roster moves after tonight’s game — it’s not like things like sending out Matt Wallach & Stephen Fife aren’t pretty obvious — but my guess is that we don’t get real answers to the questions we posed earlier today until tomorrow. That might just be me hoping that’s the case though, since anything fun breaking late on a Saturday night is never cool. (Especially one where I’ll be at a concert at a venue that’s deep enough underground that probably means cell service is unlikely.)

As for Clayton Kershaw, I still believe that his deal will get finalized by the end of Sunday so as to not conflict with Opening Day ceremonies, though as I said on Twitter earlier, I’m starting to believe that my initial estimate of $200 million might actually be about 10% light. Remember back in January when I guesstimated 7/$159m? That wasn’t all that different from the projections of others at the time, but it now sounds like we’re all going to be wayyy off.

I’m guessing that the deal will be announced at 12:30pm PT on Sunday, and that’s not in any way based on sources or inside info — it’s when I’ll be walking into an Easter dinner with the family, because of course that’s when it’ll happen. Either way, I do think it will happen before he throws his first pitch on Monday, and if it doesn’t, it’ll be because it fell through, not because of bad info.

Zack Greinke Looked Awful And There’s Nothing Wrong With That

greinke_spring_royalsYour opinion on Zack Greinke‘s return to the Cactus League tonight depends on a whole lot on what you were expecting. If you were hoping for a dominant outing from the team’s second ace, then you were sorely disappointed. Greinke was never really able to get in a groove in 64 pitches over 3+ innings, allowing six hits in the first three frames and then walking the first three hitters of the fourth inning before getting yanked. (Matt Guerrier immediately allowed all three runners to score on two hits and a Juan Uribe error, plus allowing a fourth run in as well, so at least he’s clearly in regular season form. I won’t be shocked at all if he doesn’t make the roster, though that’ll just leave us all with Kevin Gregg.)

However, if you remembered that Greinke is weeks behind every other pitcher in preparations – this was just his third start in a regular game and his first in over three weeks — and that no one cared or remembers what kind of results Clayton Kershaw was getting on March 2, then this was a relatively successful outing, all things considered. Greinke dialed his fastball up to 94 repeatedly, which is great; more than anything, he just looked rusty, and maybe a little winded as the game went on.

If you’re dying to point out that this doesn’t exactly give us all a lot of confidence about Greinke being ready to get outs against Andrew McCutchen and friends in 11 days, well, you’re not wrong. As you might expect, Greinke wasn’t thrilled with his performance either.But that’s a concern for another day; until we hear otherwise, Greinke made it through his first start back with no elbow concern and good velocity. That’s all I was hoping for out of tonight, so I’ll take it.

The Welcome Return of Zack Greinke

For the first time since March 1, Zack Greinke is on the mound in a Cactus League game for the Dodgers, facing off against Wade Davis and his old Kansas City squad. With the possible exception of Skip Schumaker over Mark Ellis at second base, it sure looks like Greinke will be backed by something that’s going to look a hell of a lot like the Opening Day lineup.

Dodgers
Royals
LF
Crawford
LF
Gordon
2B
Schumaker
SS
Escobar
CF
Kemp
DH
Butler
1B
Gonzalez
3B
Moustakas
RF
Ethier
C
Perez
SS
Cruz
1B
Hosmer
3B
Hairston
CF
Cain
C
A.Ellis
RF
Francoeur
P
Greinke
2B
Getz

That doesn’t include Yasiel Puig, though we’ll of course be besieged by questions about whether he’s on the roster until the day he’s sent down. (Which I still believe he will be, though I admit I’ve softened on my certainty over it lately.) That’s especially the case when Don Mattingly is saying things like, “we’ve talked about Puig in all different scenarios,” though I suppose you can’t be too surprised that the manager is impressed by a guy hitting .527 this spring.

But even if (and when) Puig doesn’t make the roster on April 1, Ken Rosenthal makes a great point — teams still need to be scared about what his looming presence means:

No, rival executives are concerned that Puig’s ascent eventually will help the Dodgers secure other top prospects.

How?

By pushing the Dodgers to trade one of their expensive corner outfielders, Carl Crawford or Andre Ethier – and secure additional young talent by paying most of that player’s contract as part of the deal.

In other words, the Dodgers not only can outbid teams for stars, but also can buy their way out of mistakes and come out ahead. And, at a time when teams face new restrictions on spending for both domestic and international amateurs, the Dodgers’ financial might could give them a huge advantage in amassing top prospects.

That, my friends, is what’s known as “a good problem to have”.

Back to Grienke, he’s expected to throw about 60 pitches tonight, and 75 against the Angels this weekend. Assuming that all goes well, he’ll probably avoid the disabled list and pitch on April 5 against Pittsburgh. You can catch the game tonight on MLB Network, and you can tell it’s getting late in the spring because the expected pitchers behind Greinke are Matt GuerrierJ.P. Howell, Kenley Jansen, & Brandon League — big leaguers all. Yes, even you, Guerrier. I guess.